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Major Nikon

(36,927 posts)
6. WWARD: What Would Ayn Rand Do?
Tue Oct 16, 2012, 05:28 AM
Oct 2012

Honestly I don't know why more Republicans don't support abortion, especially in this day and age when every good GOPher is supposed to worship at the altar of objectivism. If you don't believe someone has the right to remove a parasite growing in their own body, how can you honestly say you're for individual rights at all? Anyone Republican who says they are for force birthing, should automatically lose their Ayn Rand card.



An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).

Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?

Of Living Death, Ayn Rand

Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that an embryo has a “right to life.” A piece of protoplasm has no rights—and no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual, is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former, is unspeakable. . . . Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a tremendous, lifelong responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. For conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its termination is to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake of anyone’s benefit, but for the sake of misery qua misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.

The Ayn Rand Letter, Ayn Rand

If any among you are confused or taken in by the argument that the cells of an embryo are living human cells, remember that so are all the cells of your body, including the cells of your skin, your tonsils, or your ruptured appendix—and that cutting them is murder, according to the notions of that proposed law. Remember also that a potentiality is not the equivalent of an actuality—and that a human being’s life begins at birth.

The question of abortion involves much more than the termination of a pregnancy: it is a question of the entire life of the parents. As I have said before, parenthood is an enormous responsibility; it is an impossible responsibility for young people who are ambitious and struggling, but poor; particularly if they are intelligent and conscientious enough not to abandon their child on a doorstep nor to surrender it to adoption. For such young people, pregnancy is a death sentence: parenthood would force them to give up their future, and condemn them to a life of hopeless drudgery, of slavery to a child’s physical and financial needs. The situation of an unwed mother, abandoned by her lover, is even worse.

I cannot quite imagine the state of mind of a person who would wish to condemn a fellow human being to such a horror. I cannot project the degree of hatred required to make those women run around in crusades against abortion. Hatred is what they certainly project, not love for the embryos, which is a piece of nonsense no one could experience, but hatred, a virulent hatred for an unnamed object. Judging by the degree of those women’s intensity, I would say that it is an issue of self-esteem and that their fear is metaphysical. Their hatred is directed against human beings as such, against the mind, against reason, against ambition, against success, against love, against any value that brings happiness to human life. In compliance with the dishonesty that dominates today’s intellectual field, they call themselves “pro-life.”

By what right does anyone claim the power to dispose of the lives of others and to dictate their personal choices?

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A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as “a rational animal,” would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of “person” to a few human cells.A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as “a rational animal,” would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of “person” to a few human cells.

The Age of Mediocrity, Ayn Rand

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It is not even just abortion, these assbites want to make contraception Live and Learn Oct 2012 #1
The GOP has already said women should stay with abusive spouses. Some states have given rapists freshwest Oct 2012 #2
hyperbole is counter productive and the real threats are dire enough cali Oct 2012 #3
Who would ever have thought that they would attempt to ban contraceptive Live and Learn Oct 2012 #4
Who would ever have thought they wouldn't attempt to ban contraceptives? cali Oct 2012 #21
If contraception has the remote possibility of preventing implantation HockeyMom Oct 2012 #23
This is not hyperbole, I think you must live in a very liberal area. If they do take down Roe, Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #7
well yes, I live in Vermont but that has nothing to do with my analysis cali Oct 2012 #10
If you really believe that, you need to get out into the rest of the country more. Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #15
Very true! nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #16
Maybe not barrier methods of contraception, HockeyMom Oct 2012 #24
+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #5
I'm not sure about some of these assertions.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #11
Here's a link: Ilsa Oct 2012 #14
You are being way too optimistic and lalalu Oct 2012 #28
The really scary part is that there are people lalalu Oct 2012 #26
And they took power in 2010 and now want the presidency. freshwest Oct 2012 #29
WWARD: What Would Ayn Rand Do? Major Nikon Oct 2012 #6
Ugh, I sure don't want to be reduced to touting Rand's philosophy Live and Learn Oct 2012 #8
It's more about hypocrisy than any of Rand's pseudo-philosophy Major Nikon Oct 2012 #9
Of course, I got that. But they won't. Live and Learn Oct 2012 #13
Once they find out Rand was a pro-choice atheist, they would want to burn her books instead Major Nikon Oct 2012 #18
Do you seriously think they would ever get that far in their studies? nt Live and Learn Oct 2012 #19
I never underestimate the stupidity of the average wingnut Major Nikon Oct 2012 #20
I agree that pointing anyone who mentions her to the Live and Learn Oct 2012 #22
And then mgardener Oct 2012 #12
Then they would overturn Supreme Court rulings agjainst sodemy laws. Mothdust Oct 2012 #17
Marv Albert trial HockeyMom Oct 2012 #25
Yes, i remember that. lalalu Oct 2012 #27
but the u.s. supreme court eventually struck down sodomy laws Mothdust Oct 2012 #30
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