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In reply to the discussion: If Roe v. Wade Goes (What happens next is the end of reproductive rights) [View all]Major Nikon
(36,927 posts)6. WWARD: What Would Ayn Rand Do?
Honestly I don't know why more Republicans don't support abortion, especially in this day and age when every good GOPher is supposed to worship at the altar of objectivism. If you don't believe someone has the right to remove a parasite growing in their own body, how can you honestly say you're for individual rights at all? Anyone Republican who says they are for force birthing, should automatically lose their Ayn Rand card.
An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn).
Abortion is a moral rightwhich should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?
Abortion is a moral rightwhich should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?
Of Living Death, Ayn Rand
Never mind the vicious nonsense of claiming that an embryo has a right to life. A piece of protoplasm has no rightsand no life in the human sense of the term. One may argue about the later stages of a pregnancy, but the essential issue concerns only the first three months. To equate a potential with an actual, is vicious; to advocate the sacrifice of the latter to the former, is unspeakable. . . . Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e., the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living: the right of young people to set the course of their own lives. The task of raising a child is a tremendous, lifelong responsibility, which no one should undertake unwittingly or unwillingly. Procreation is not a duty: human beings are not stock-farm animals. For conscientious persons, an unwanted pregnancy is a disaster; to oppose its termination is to advocate sacrifice, not for the sake of anyones benefit, but for the sake of misery qua misery, for the sake of forbidding happiness and fulfillment to living human beings.
The Ayn Rand Letter, Ayn Rand
If any among you are confused or taken in by the argument that the cells of an embryo are living human cells, remember that so are all the cells of your body, including the cells of your skin, your tonsils, or your ruptured appendixand that cutting them is murder, according to the notions of that proposed law. Remember also that a potentiality is not the equivalent of an actualityand that a human beings life begins at birth.
The question of abortion involves much more than the termination of a pregnancy: it is a question of the entire life of the parents. As I have said before, parenthood is an enormous responsibility; it is an impossible responsibility for young people who are ambitious and struggling, but poor; particularly if they are intelligent and conscientious enough not to abandon their child on a doorstep nor to surrender it to adoption. For such young people, pregnancy is a death sentence: parenthood would force them to give up their future, and condemn them to a life of hopeless drudgery, of slavery to a childs physical and financial needs. The situation of an unwed mother, abandoned by her lover, is even worse.
I cannot quite imagine the state of mind of a person who would wish to condemn a fellow human being to such a horror. I cannot project the degree of hatred required to make those women run around in crusades against abortion. Hatred is what they certainly project, not love for the embryos, which is a piece of nonsense no one could experience, but hatred, a virulent hatred for an unnamed object. Judging by the degree of those womens intensity, I would say that it is an issue of self-esteem and that their fear is metaphysical. Their hatred is directed against human beings as such, against the mind, against reason, against ambition, against success, against love, against any value that brings happiness to human life. In compliance with the dishonesty that dominates todays intellectual field, they call themselves pro-life.
By what right does anyone claim the power to dispose of the lives of others and to dictate their personal choices?
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A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as a rational animal, would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of person to a few human cells.A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as a rational animal, would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of person to a few human cells.
The question of abortion involves much more than the termination of a pregnancy: it is a question of the entire life of the parents. As I have said before, parenthood is an enormous responsibility; it is an impossible responsibility for young people who are ambitious and struggling, but poor; particularly if they are intelligent and conscientious enough not to abandon their child on a doorstep nor to surrender it to adoption. For such young people, pregnancy is a death sentence: parenthood would force them to give up their future, and condemn them to a life of hopeless drudgery, of slavery to a childs physical and financial needs. The situation of an unwed mother, abandoned by her lover, is even worse.
I cannot quite imagine the state of mind of a person who would wish to condemn a fellow human being to such a horror. I cannot project the degree of hatred required to make those women run around in crusades against abortion. Hatred is what they certainly project, not love for the embryos, which is a piece of nonsense no one could experience, but hatred, a virulent hatred for an unnamed object. Judging by the degree of those womens intensity, I would say that it is an issue of self-esteem and that their fear is metaphysical. Their hatred is directed against human beings as such, against the mind, against reason, against ambition, against success, against love, against any value that brings happiness to human life. In compliance with the dishonesty that dominates todays intellectual field, they call themselves pro-life.
By what right does anyone claim the power to dispose of the lives of others and to dictate their personal choices?
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A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as a rational animal, would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of person to a few human cells.A proper, philosophically valid definition of man as a rational animal, would not permit anyone to ascribe the status of person to a few human cells.
The Age of Mediocrity, Ayn Rand
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If Roe v. Wade Goes (What happens next is the end of reproductive rights) [View all]
cali
Oct 2012
OP
The GOP has already said women should stay with abusive spouses. Some states have given rapists
freshwest
Oct 2012
#2
This is not hyperbole, I think you must live in a very liberal area. If they do take down Roe,
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2012
#7
If you really believe that, you need to get out into the rest of the country more.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2012
#15
Once they find out Rand was a pro-choice atheist, they would want to burn her books instead
Major Nikon
Oct 2012
#18
Do you seriously think they would ever get that far in their studies? nt
Live and Learn
Oct 2012
#19