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98. Just cause you couldn't fathom wanting to be a prostitute doesn't make it scientifically impossible

Wed Jan 11, 2012, 05:35 PM

Jan 2012

Not everyone is like YOU or like ME.

Its naive and ignorant to say that every prostitute is a prostitute against his or her personal will or out of some dark desperation.

Its also naive and ignorant to say every prostitute is a prostitute because they enjoy sex and want to get paid to have it.

Whether you are talking about prostitutes, strippers, adult film stars, males, females, what have you... you could make a list of reasons of why people become these things and that list would range from one extreme to the other. YES, some people do become prostitutes because its what they WANT to do. There are plenty of prostitutes in areas where its legal that will go on record and proclaim this to your face. And YES, some people do get involved in that kind of work because they are desperate or they are forced into it somehow and thats awful.

Regardless, people need to stop pretending like its either one way or the other and accept the fact that not everyone fucking thinks about the world the way you do.

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I have visited prostitutes, and I don't apologize for it. It was 1971, in a place called Vung Tau. [View all] 11 Bravo Jan 2012 OP

No. PDJane Jan 2012 #1

As a woman of color, I cannot condemn you for what you did Ecumenist Jan 2012 #2

I'm sorry you had to go through combat experiences, and I'm glad you came out alive. nt Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #3

Even if I weren't married, I've no desire for a prostitute. But people should have.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #4

Who the fuck "wants to be" a prostitute? Fool Count Jan 2012 #97

Just cause you couldn't fathom wanting to be a prostitute doesn't make it scientifically impossible phleshdef Jan 2012 #98

There are such people. I've known a few of them. Cleita Jan 2012 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Jan 2012 #5

After discussion, and advice from admins, I'm unlocking this thread, MineralMan Jan 2012 #6

I just want to thank you publicly for your PMs to me. 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #8

You're more than welcome. MineralMan Jan 2012 #20

Welcome back. rug Jan 2012 #7

Can't say I wouldn't have done the same in those circumstances. Glad you made it back Bravo! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #9

Excellent point, because... pipi_k Jan 2012 #48

As a woman I wonder if those prostitutes Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #113

As I said in another thread, if you stop all prostitution... Zalatix Jan 2012 #118

Yep...And that's why pipi_k Jan 2012 #140

Problem with foreign factories is the pollution and land degradation Zalatix Jan 2012 #141

Well, since pipi_k Jan 2012 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Bunny Jan 2012 #10

Who cares? to each his/her own book_worm Jan 2012 #11

My thought exactly. n/t RebelOne Jan 2012 #18

I imagine the women who sold their bodies to survive the war care. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #22

Better than starving, no? Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #25

Based on your last sentence you know nothing about prostitution. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #33

Most women don't come to the conclusion that being a prostitute is better than Mickey Ds justiceischeap Jan 2012 #36

And every factoid in your post underlines the need to legalize it. TalkingDog Jan 2012 #45

When prostitution is legalized, these problems drop dramatically Major Nikon Jan 2012 #74

I would argue that most of the problems associated with prostitution justiceischeap Jan 2012 #78

So why not address that problem directly? Major Nikon Jan 2012 #82

sure, i'd just love to blow strangers instead of flipping burgers! Scout Jan 2012 #51

But they like it! redqueen Jan 2012 #62

Denial often works both ways Major Nikon Jan 2012 #76

Not an advocate of child rape, just of the idea that bodies are commodities, redqueen Jan 2012 #77

It's the same thing Major Nikon Jan 2012 #80

My problem with your argument Major is the following justiceischeap Jan 2012 #79

You've failed to understand my argument Major Nikon Jan 2012 #81

We can go in circles all day long :) justiceischeap Jan 2012 #85

I don't think that's going to happen Major Nikon Jan 2012 #87

So you'd prefer that they DIDN'T survive? EOTE Jan 2012 #38

Is that what you really got out of that? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #47

What was I supposed to get from it? EOTE Jan 2012 #49

War made it necessary. No one seems to consider how these women may be scarred for life. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #53

So prostitution didn't exist before the war? EOTE Jan 2012 #57

Would you be as supportive if one of these women were found to be under 18? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #59

No, and that's what would be considered a strawman! Congratulations. EOTE Jan 2012 #61

Do you accept the fact that most of these women have been abused or come from broken homes? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #67

No, not most. Certainly higher than the general population, though. EOTE Jan 2012 #71

Here's more women working to survive. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #73

Congratulations, you've won the "Strawman of the thread" award. EOTE Jan 2012 #75

What if the pigs gave the woman gainful employment rather than using MattBaggins Jan 2012 #130

What if a magic wand eliminated all unemployment and gave people exactly the jobs they wanted? EOTE Jan 2012 #135

My son is exactly the age you were then. yardwork Jan 2012 #12

Yeah, me too...different part of the country, in 1970.... cliffordu Jan 2012 #13

No problem. Nobody can explain why it is illegal in this country sfpcjock Jan 2012 #14

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #15

Two thumbs down RZM Jan 2012 #16

Sex is extra productive when you don't pay the girl first. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #26

How do you think the girls in a war torn country MattBaggins Jan 2012 #131

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #27

Alerting unionworks Jan 2012 #43

Been there. Done that. oneshooter Jan 2012 #17

all I'll say is I feel for the women Raine Jan 2012 #19

Thank you. WinkyDink Jan 2012 #28

This... Fawke Em Jan 2012 #30

+1. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #40

But they chose to do it! redqueen Jan 2012 #65

+1 treestar Jan 2012 #88

+1 demmiblue Jan 2012 #106

that's more about the war than about prostitution Enrique Jan 2012 #21

That's not fully correct MattBaggins Jan 2012 #132

I think many of us have paid Upton Jan 2012 #23

at one time or another, in one form or another, for sex. seabeyond Jan 2012 #42

We all note your LACK of disagreement with the statement's truth. Occulus Jan 2012 #63

i understand you position, too. you have made it clear on numerous occasions. nt seabeyond Jan 2012 #70

I'll never support Comfort Women. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #24

We all of us rationalize many of our actions. LanternWaste Jan 2012 #29

My partner did the same thing in Viet Nam and Thailand w8liftinglady Jan 2012 #31

I believe that was the same reason the Japanese gave. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #35

For soliciting prostitutes? Well good for them. NT EOTE Jan 2012 #39

For the need for Comfort Women. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #46

OK, so your post really doesn't say anything regarding the inherit good of the practice either way. EOTE Jan 2012 #50

The reasoning here is that soldiers need a release. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #52

Wow, you sure are good at saying things without actually saying anything. NT EOTE Jan 2012 #56

It's all in the thread. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #60

You still have yet to say anything of substance. EOTE Jan 2012 #68

Legalize it. roody Jan 2012 #32

Interesting Dorian Gray Jan 2012 #34

Glad you got that off your chest. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #37

That's a shame MattBaggins Jan 2012 #133

From a woman... WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #41

Should women who have been abused not have that option? EOTE Jan 2012 #58

No, I wouldn't. WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #84

interesting contradiction lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #72

While a contradiction in fact, WilmywoodNCparalegal Jan 2012 #83

First of all... pipi_k Jan 2012 #44

Was her name Tuyet Bandit Jan 2012 #54

Nor should you be. tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #55

TMI Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #64

Instead of discussing whether the women would have been hedgehog Jan 2012 #66

As the child of a relationship between an Asian woman and a GI Generic Other Jan 2012 #69

God Bless You unionworks Jan 2012 #93

How did the women who serviced you JerseyMac Jan 2012 #86

Join the military unionworks Jan 2012 #90

Which doesn't appear to address the relevant question: LanternWaste Jan 2012 #91

They probably felt no better unionworks Jan 2012 #94

Being in combat JerseyMac Jan 2012 #95

Where did I say they were women? What are you, some kind of homophobic bigot? 11 Bravo Jan 2012 #99

Object Lesson unionworks Jan 2012 #101

That's why I say 'prostitutes'. redqueen Jan 2012 #103

Wow after 40 years JerseyMac Jan 2012 #104

Wow! 4 Posts unionworks Jan 2012 #105

Good for you JerseyMac Jan 2012 #108

Who's says they were forced? EX500rider Jan 2012 #119

I'm guessing she feels lucky to be alive, if she is DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #126

I have read enough about war... DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #125

Though I feel bad about you having the friends be killed treestar Jan 2012 #89

Your post unionworks Jan 2012 #112

Seems reasonable. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #92

I hope they loved you for a long time slackmaster Jan 2012 #96

Dear God unionworks Jan 2012 #100

Wish the women could have been armed.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #102

Many of them were armed unionworks Jan 2012 #110

Why do you want to silence those who are concerned with the women.. demmiblue Jan 2012 #114

Why do you advocate that people soliciting a prostitute deserve to get shot? EOTE Jan 2012 #137

My older brother was there a a year or so before you liberaltrucker Jan 2012 #107

What exactly JerseyMac Jan 2012 #109

I have no right because I've never been there liberaltrucker Jan 2012 #122

I did serve MattBaggins Jan 2012 #134

It's the fundamental building block in our country's unwillingness to prosecute war crimes JVS Jan 2012 #129

You didn't do anything I didn't do - and they spoke english FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #111

I've never met a prostitute... NightTemplar Jan 2012 #116

None of my friends died in Vietnam unionworks Jan 2012 #117

Set him straight? EOTE Jan 2012 #136

was referring to unionworks Jan 2012 #138

You did. Much thanks. EOTE Jan 2012 #142

I thought the days unionworks Jan 2012 #144

Americans: noamnety Jan 2012 #120

O.K. 19 year old conscripts unionworks Jan 2012 #124

For the record (for the benefit of others) noamnety Jan 2012 #127

Subjegate South East Asians while on duty, Subjegate South East Asians on leave. JVS Jan 2012 #121

I love this thread unionworks Jan 2012 #123

The devil is in the details. Vattel Jan 2012 #128

You violently raped those women after they were victims of human trafficking. TransitJohn Jan 2012 #143