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Hortensis

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36. As you say, but if a far-right authoritarian government took over
Wed Jun 2, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jun 2021

it's likely most of our nation would fairly quickly be brought under the control of a government with formidable assets to quash troubles it didn't approve.

So far we do seem to have a currently blocked coup in process and some dispersed, domestic terrorism troubles that serve the insurrectionists. If we win, imagine they will continue for a while.

Speculating more, it seems likely that various points some states would resist, refuse federal authority where it was unacceptable, and if necessary ultimately military force would be used to gain control. That would qualify as civil war, but federal military consolidation of power would be much, much, much faster than the first one and involve few civilians except as collateral damage.

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I don't see a civil war happening. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #1
We are in the middle of it right now. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #55
In the words of America's poet Bob Dylan..... 70sEraVet Jun 2021 #2
I don't remember the earlier post... but happy to "slam" you here FBaggins Jun 2021 #3
"---or a coup of some kind." We had one of these attempted on January 6th. Is another try so Atticus Jun 2021 #7
"We had one of these attempted" FBaggins Jun 2021 #10
I think your comparison of the January 6th criminals who invaded the Capitol with the expressed Atticus Jun 2021 #14
No need to rethink - both are ludicrous FBaggins Jun 2021 #17
The "Confederate States" did not "succeed", but the American Civil War was not Atticus Jun 2021 #21
Yet another ludicrous comparison FBaggins Jun 2021 #23
Bless your heart! nt Atticus Jun 2021 #25
Thank you for this sensible post. Treefrog Jun 2021 #29
Some people think the news is just another television show Sympthsical Jun 2021 #53
If you're trying to assert a balance of reasonable perspective.. msfiddlestix Jun 2021 #41
Bookmarking for later. nt Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #43
It was actually very close to being successful. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #56
No it wasn't FBaggins Jun 2021 #61
How did that work out for the insurrectionists? MineralMan Jun 2021 #13
Prophecy is bemusing. LanternWaste Jun 2021 #59
It is nice to be popular, but it's better to be right. Sometimes you just have to Atticus Jun 2021 #4
Thanks Atticus, I have always been told I color outside the lines :-). redstatebluegirl Jun 2021 #5
Telling me a circle is square is certainly outside of the lines thinking Sympthsical Jun 2021 #54
And strawmen are useful distractions. nt Atticus Jun 2021 #57
A civil war like the original one is highly unlikely, since that involved a conflict between Ocelot II Jun 2021 #6
This. StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #8
Yet some will insist that unless "we" wear blue and "they" wear gray, it won't really be a Atticus Jun 2021 #16
A civil war can take many forms. Ocelot II Jun 2021 #22
As you say, but if a far-right authoritarian government took over Hortensis Jun 2021 #36
I certainly think that a civil war is possible. Haggard Celine Jun 2021 #9
But what if *their* side regains power in the next couple of elections? Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #46
That is why we have to kill the filibuster now! Haggard Celine Jun 2021 #50
It's been apparent for a few decades. Dylan Roof should have blm Jun 2021 #11
How do I feel? I don't go by my feelings about such things. MineralMan Jun 2021 #12
This. Another sensible post. Treefrog Jun 2021 #30
Well, there IS unrest from the far right. MineralMan Jun 2021 #32
Exactly. And when I read about them in court, they either deny being there or say they were Treefrog Jun 2021 #51
That's what Q wants Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #15
Q is not an organized quasi-military group. It is just an idea. MineralMan Jun 2021 #37
There isn't going to be a civil war JI7 Jun 2021 #18
I sure as hell didn't slam you, then. Paladin Jun 2021 #19
Me too but I think the threat is real. redstatebluegirl Jun 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jun 2021 #26
Where did I state that the threat was not real? I was agreeing with you. (nt) Paladin Jun 2021 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author hamsterjill Jun 2021 #31
Sorry I know that I didn't state it correctly. I was stopped in traffic and trying to hurry. redstatebluegirl Jun 2021 #33
No problem. Thanks for the clarification. (nt) Paladin Jun 2021 #47
I don't see it as a current possibility. RegularJam Jun 2021 #24
The same as I did when you posted it the first time. BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #28
A Trumphole Putsch attempt is not a Civil War JCMach1 Jun 2021 #34
I wrote a post about it I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2021 #35
"Civil war" by some definition as Ocelot describes does seem more possible. Hortensis Jun 2021 #38
We have been in a psychological (psy-ops) civil war for quite awhile. Irish_Dem Jun 2021 #39
The right wing is more agitated than ever. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #40
Got your post right here! Now I just have to read it. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #42
Thanks! redstatebluegirl Jun 2021 #48
It was in your journal BTW. Just had to go back far enough. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #49
Still no. WarGamer Jun 2021 #44
Why so many Trump supporters crave apocalyptic bloodshed LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #45
The notion is totally preposterous. It's dramatic hyperbole. Sympthsical Jun 2021 #52
In the days BT (Before Trump), I would have said no. BT I believed that CivilWarI settled the issue Hekate Jun 2021 #58
Here is the post that you made in 2013 Kaleva Jun 2021 #60
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