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Silent3

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17. Without Manchin and Sinema helping NOW, however...

Sun Jun 6, 2021, 03:05 PM

Jun 2021

...more voter suppression will be in effect, and not just voter suppression, but voter overriding by Republican legislatures who are empowering themselves to simply veto the voters if they don't like how they vote.

On top of that, with Biden's agenda stalled, the many stupid voters who will blame Biden and the Democrats for things not getting done in the next two years will be more likely to vote for Republicans too.

Fighting hard for as many Congressional wins as we can get in 2022 is what we have to do anyway -- and should always do anyway -- but there's good reason to fear it might not be enough.

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In 2023 we can make Joe Manchin and his apprentice Kyrsten Sinema irrelevant by [View all] notpolltested Jun 2021 OP

Yes, Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #1

Look, I agree... TDale313 Jun 2021 #2

Got to fight fire with fire, which means investing in the candidates most up to the job early notpolltested Jun 2021 #3

democrats have a great opportunity and have to get offensive. in those 4 states certainot Jun 2021 #40

NC & OH are passing Jim Crow 2.0 laws that will likely prevent Dems winning, and may lose 2 more. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #4

We got to do both. GA and AZ are trending blue states with NC lagging behind notpolltested Jun 2021 #5

You are relying on traditional comfort zone paradigms that will no longer apply Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #21

Warnock's seat is far from toast. bearsfootball516 Jun 2021 #16

Have you been paying attention? GA legislature gave themselves the power to overturn elections Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #18

Only if it's close. Let's make sure it isn't. nt notpolltested Jun 2021 #19

They have the power to overturn regardless of the margin. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #23

I'll still be working to elect Dems, regardless. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #24

Not suggesting apathy, just that your focus on elections is misguided Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #27

So once we're in the streets, what do we do? cayugafalls Jun 2021 #35

Make life miserable for Manchin and Sinema, shut down the gears of the machine Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #43

Oh, please. paleotn Jun 2021 #32

They can overturn any blue county they want, without the SOS's input. ecstatic Jun 2021 #37

Potentially, yes. But then again... paleotn Jun 2021 #39

You obviously haven't read the GA law Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #45

Yes, I've read it. paleotn Jun 2021 #46

democrats continue the biggest political mistake in history certainot Jun 2021 #41

By then the GOP will likely have the House: gerrymandering and voter suppression leading the way andym Jun 2021 #6

I'm talking about campaigning our asses off in 2022, with the most tactical operation notpolltested Jun 2021 #7

Bingo! +10,000 paleotn Jun 2021 #34

It would still be beneficial Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #15

Good point about the judges and with the filubseter gone for judges it would matter a lot andym Jun 2021 #25

So your solutions is.....what? paleotn Jun 2021 #33

My solution? Mount a very large social media based publicity campaign about how the right to vote andym Jun 2021 #42

Bingo! That's what I'm talking about. paleotn Jun 2021 #44

That is exactly where we need to focus JohnSJ Jun 2021 #8

Now, you'll also be working to re-elect Maggie Hassan (NH) and Mark Kelly (AZ)... brooklynite Jun 2021 #9

At least Mark Kelly isn't actively trying notpolltested Jun 2021 #12

Are they on record? Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #14

If it came to a floor vote, they would vote to end or at least modify the filibuster. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #22

I expected Manchin to be quite conservative pandr32 Jun 2021 #10

I agree 'something doesn't smell right.' elleng Jun 2021 #28

I'd take a look at his Donor base first. Tommymac Jun 2021 #30

He may have a surprising donor pandr32 Jun 2021 #47

I refer to it as "The Koch Brothers Political Machine." njhoneybadger Jun 2021 #36

We need several carbon copies of Stacey Abrams to organize. Sneederbunk Jun 2021 #11

Beto and Powered by People are on it in Texas notpolltested Jun 2021 #13

Without Manchin and Sinema helping NOW, however... Silent3 Jun 2021 #17

And Val Demings in FL mcar Jun 2021 #20

PLEASE! elleng Jun 2021 #26

I hope this happens Meowmee Jun 2021 #29

I was wondering how long it would take for someone Butterflylady Jun 2021 #31

Don't forget Wisconsin Poiuyt Jun 2021 #38

...and by making DC a state. roamer65 Jun 2021 #48

Not going to happen in the next 2 years unfortunately nt notpolltested Jun 2021 #49