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muriel_volestrangler

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38. That is a big part of it - section headed Buy, Borrow, Die: How America's Ultrawealthy Stay That Way
Wed Jun 9, 2021, 05:40 AM
Jun 2021
Last year Tesla reported that Musk had pledged some 92 million shares, which were worth about $57.7 billion as of May 29, 2021, as collateral for personal loans.

With the exception of one year when he exercised more than a billion dollars in stock options, Musk’s tax bills in no way reflect the fortune he has at his disposal. In 2015, he paid $68,000 in federal income tax. In 2017, it was $65,000, and in 2018 he paid no federal income tax. Between 2014 and 2018, he had a true tax rate of 3.27%.

The IRS records provide glimpses of other massive loans. In both 2016 and 2017, investor Carl Icahn, who ranks as the 40th-wealthiest American on the Forbes list, paid no federal income taxes despite reporting a total of $544 million in adjusted gross income (which the IRS defines as earnings minus items like student loan interest payments or alimony). Icahn had an outstanding loan of $1.2 billion with Bank of America among other loans, according to the IRS data. It was technically a mortgage because it was secured, at least in part, by Manhattan penthouse apartments and other properties.

Borrowing offers multiple benefits to Icahn: He gets huge tranches of cash to turbocharge his investment returns. Then he gets to deduct the interest from his taxes. In an interview, Icahn explained that he reports the profits and losses of his business empire on his personal taxes.

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will read later, but markie Jun 2021 #1
Wonder how much capital gains tax was paid by the millions selling shares in Amazon? Lots, and with Hoyt Jun 2021 #2
Good reminder of why ProPublica is worth supporting. Pinback Jun 2021 #3
+1 ... thanks. KPN Jun 2021 #12
K & R Nevilledog Jun 2021 #4
973m in taxes on 4.2b in income fescuerescue Jun 2021 #17
Looks like they're using the Wealth Growth column as an indicator of True Tax Rate. Pinback Jun 2021 #25
OIC. fescuerescue Jun 2021 #26
It's a news article, not an "advertisement." BTW, Elizabeth Warren's proposal would have zero effect Pinback Jun 2021 #27
I'm happy to use the word advocate then. fescuerescue Jun 2021 #35
There is one dsc Jun 2021 #39
indeed fescuerescue Jun 2021 #42
going on for years , and they still keep screaming ,"my taxes are too high", AllaN01Bear Jun 2021 #5
Give it back. cbabe Jun 2021 #6
What do you mean by ''... give it back.''? ... aggiesal Jun 2021 #20
Give it back cbabe Jun 2021 #29
Understood, thanks. n/t aggiesal Jun 2021 #34
No mystery. We tax income, not wealth. thesquanderer Jun 2021 #7
No, this is specifically about INCOME tax SoonerPride Jun 2021 #8
I did read a lot of the article. It seems like maybe you didn't? thesquanderer Jun 2021 #15
Do you not believe they are leveraging this wealth and avoiding taxes? ... aggiesal Jun 2021 #24
True. But the fundamental issue remains that that's only possible BECAUSE... thesquanderer Jun 2021 #28
That is a big part of it - section headed Buy, Borrow, Die: How America's Ultrawealthy Stay That Way muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #38
We can all do this with our increased real estate equity ... aggiesal Jun 2021 #46
You're relying on house prices increasing, or at the least staying steady, with that strategy muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #48
So I'm going to respond to some statements made ... aggiesal Jun 2021 #49
No, you missed the point of the article. whopis01 Jun 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author aggiesal Jun 2021 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author aggiesal Jun 2021 #23
The fact that they are able to do it is enough for me. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #9
Love your user name btw SoonerPride Jun 2021 #10
SLACK, dude! BobTheSubgenius Jun 2021 #37
Warren's wealth tax would help for a while Warpy Jun 2021 #11
election audit's my ass - time for rich bitch's audit's ! monkeyman1 Jun 2021 #13
2652 pages in the tax code, time to start over bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #14
Kind of surprised that he decided to start paying taxes again 2011. fescuerescue Jun 2021 #16
one way to fix this rdking647 Jun 2021 #18
Until they fear this. multigraincracker Jun 2021 #21
K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Jun 2021 #30
Question: who here demanded that President Obama and the Democratic Congress address this? brooklynite Jun 2021 #31
The GOP's sole mission is to keep these fuckers free from paying their fair share Blue Owl Jun 2021 #32
Income tax taxes income, not wealth. Kaleva Jun 2021 #33
And they paid almost no income tax SoonerPride Jun 2021 #44
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #36
Doesn't fill me with confidence in the IRS Shrek Jun 2021 #40
I doubt seriously this resulted from an IRS hack. Pinback Jun 2021 #41
I wasn't referring to cybersecurity Shrek Jun 2021 #43
One of the ProPublica journalists was on with Chris Hayes Deminpenn Jun 2021 #45
There was some consternation this morning about the privacy of those billionaires being violated Goodheart Jun 2021 #47
Yes. We should be able to pierce of the privacy of anyone we don't like fescuerescue Jun 2021 #50
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