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Caliman73

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36. They are actually conservative.
Fri Jun 11, 2021, 06:45 PM
Jun 2021

What they claim as their planks and values, as you said,

personal responsibility. Or the party of family. Or the party of God. Or the party of fiscal responsibility. Or the party of rule of law.
is just window dressing.

At the core of conservative ideology is the belief in a natural hierarchy within society that is based, according to those conservatives, on "the best being in charge". The best according to conservatives are Wealthy, White, Christian (Protestant typically), Men. That is their ideology. It is the same ideology that was used to support Monarchy in the 17th and 18th Centuries. As Monarchy faded as a viable system of government, the proponents of conservative ideology had to find a new class or "betters" to lead. They focused on the Wealthy, because the wealthy were typically, already the aristocracy and the merchants who controlled most of the economy. Obviously they are the most "gifted".

Rules and laws, according to conservatives, do not apply to those in power. Those in power, by there wealth, show that they are able to transcend the need for behavior control.

That said, you are entirely correct about Democrats needing to be MUCH better at framing the narrative. The slight problem we face is that most of the media is controlled by the very Wealthy people we are hoping to depose as the dominant members of society. They control much of the access to "the masses".
Democrats need to do more... [View all] Caliman73 Jun 2021 OP
I'm kicking this up JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #1
Thanks. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #7
My concerns about voting rights JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #35
Kicked WA-03 Democrat Jun 2021 #2
Thank you! Just me, but I think Dems are doing a great job and we need to support them PortTack Jun 2021 #3
Have Patience. Omnipresent Jun 2021 #4
The real problem Pantagruel Jun 2021 #5
I actually think that "majority" does mean something and can be HUGE. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #11
I keep asking the same questions StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #6
I see JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #9
PS JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #8
My main things would be Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #10
These are outcomes you want to see, not action steps someone can take StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #14
Fair enough, but I never said I was a political strategist, I don't know the nitty-gritty Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #17
That's the point, though StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #20
Thanks Hugh. Good points. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #21
If you'd asked me to argue against the things I'd brought up Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2021 #28
Also, do NOT defund organizations like ACORN wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #24
Apply more effective pressure on Senators/Representatives who get in the way. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #12
So.... CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #27
When the power imbalance is so dangerous, we can't let the bad guys hold all the weapons. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #29
You've lost the plot. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #30
Uhhh....whut? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #31
Bribes Good. Yeah? CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #32
Sweeteners in specific districts or states are standard practice. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #33
Sometimes, imprecise language can damage a good message. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #38
Sure and I agree with that. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #39
No doubt. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #41
I think the question needs to be asked: What are YOU doing in the "need to do more"? ck4829 Jun 2021 #13
"spam honeypot email for hard-right groups." Pantagruel Jun 2021 #15
Oh certainly, easy to create, you'll want to maintain it though ck4829 Jun 2021 #19
Longing for angry populist yelling. The illusion that angry yelling and flailing arms betsuni Jun 2021 #16
Be like the goops by NOT playing nice all the time wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #18
Positive and negative ads. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #22
The goops were better than the Dems at turning out their voters wellst0nev0ter Jun 2021 #23
Like I said, We are motivated by different things. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #37
Thank you for this post CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #25
I keep asking these questions, too mcar Jun 2021 #26
We could challenge the 40 years of right wing memes that are false or misleading. CrispyQ Jun 2021 #34
They are actually conservative. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #36
Ruthless and single minded. Brazen. Use whatever power they have to do whatever they can Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #40
Okay. Again, what do you mean? Caliman73 Jun 2021 #42
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