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Scrivener7

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46. They did this during the time when republiQans were showing us how easy it is to

Fri Jun 11, 2021, 08:17 PM

Jun 2021

ignore subpoenas.

This is the whole enchilada of our Democracy. I think they should have refused and threatened to pull all donations to any republiQan cause or candidate. They have a lot of power. If they cared to, they could have used it.

And if you received a demand from Donny Bodybags or Billy Barr for Adam Schiff's kids' private phone records, I am quite certain that you would have figured out that the purpose was nefarious.

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Apple isn't the bad guy in the Trump spying scandal [View all] StarfishSaver Jun 2021 OP

They are not the good guy either. kentuck Jun 2021 #1

"Raising a red flag" means nothing in this context StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #4

They had no choice, as explained in the OP. What's most discouraging is that we had people... George II Jun 2021 #23

Yeah... they are ... they fought a lot hard to protect terrorists and drug dealers JT45242 Jun 2021 #2

A grand jury subpoena is not a court order. StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #5

An attempt to quash the subpoena could have been made...would there be a record of it? JT45242 Jun 2021 #28

Apple had no standing to try to quash the subpoenas StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #32

Phone security Vs iCloud ? mwooldri Jun 2021 #8

I thought we were talking about Barr and the DOJ seizing telephone data from 100 accounts... George II Jun 2021 #24

What bothers people is after the San Bernardino shooting the FBI asked Apple to help them get into JohnSJ Jun 2021 #3

That was a very different situation StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #6

True, I am just saying this may be the reason some are throwing barbs toward Apple JohnSJ Jun 2021 #9

True StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #12

+++ JohnSJ Jun 2021 #14

We mock the MAGA crowd for their inability to change their minds based on new information StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #15

One of the values of a forum such as DU is it provides the opportunity for different points JohnSJ Jun 2021 #16

iCloud Vs phone. mwooldri Jun 2021 #10

But, but, wait! Ocelot II Jun 2021 #7

No, they aren't Bettie Jun 2021 #11

Exactly StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #13

And they are definitely not Trump supporters... Elwood P Dowd Jun 2021 #17

I think it is more a general frustration Bettie Jun 2021 #19

True StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #21

Yeah. I am trying to do that Bettie Jun 2021 #25

Exactly StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #34

More Proof Of How Trump Smashed Everything To Smitherines. DallasNE Jun 2021 #37

Yes. Bettie Jun 2021 #38

There was a grand jury? spinbaby Jun 2021 #18

Yes StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #20

So a jury of citizens signed off on these supoenas? zaj Jun 2021 #26

Is there any individual or entity in a better position to expose this naked abuse of authority? gratuitous Jun 2021 #22

I have to agree BGBD Jun 2021 #30

The AG doesn't arrest people for violating grand jury subpoenas StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #35

You don't think BGBD Jun 2021 #39

No, I don't StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #40

Google was fighting off a DoJ subpena BGBD Jun 2021 #45

As someone who has sat on a Grand Jury, Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #27

I don't like Apple because they don't pay their share of taxes, use questionable labor practices yaesu Jun 2021 #29

So are you using a tin can and some string for a phone. BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #41

Thank you bpj62 Jun 2021 #31

Doesn't matter, really. It sticks a pin in the Apple privacy and security balloon. Politicub Jun 2021 #33

Apple didn't turn over any info they do not disclose to customers they retain and will turn over StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #36

I am not saying that they did anything wrong. What I'm pointing out is this affects Apple's Politicub Jun 2021 #42

People should know by now that information like this has always been and is available StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #43

Unfortunately, most people do not know what metadata is. And T&Cs are Politicub Jun 2021 #44

They did this during the time when republiQans were showing us how easy it is to Scrivener7 Jun 2021 #46