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Better Believe It

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Wed Jan 11, 2012, 06:48 PM Jan 2012

What caused an unholy trinity of Republicans, Democrats and the President to trash the Constitution? [View all]



There’s Something They’re Not Telling Us… President Signs Indefinite Detention Law
by: Craig Wiesn
Craig is a decorated Air Force veteran who served as a Korean linguist, intelligence analyst, and language instructor (at the Defense Language Institute) from 1979 - 1987. Craig is on the board of Multifaith Voices for Peace and Justice (a Bay Area peace organization),
January 5, 2012


When I first heard about Congress adding a provision to a Defense Authorization bill that would allow for the U.S. MILITARY to arrest and indefinitely detain American citizens, without trial, just for being suspected of supporting anyone who was “engaged in hostilities against the United States,” I assumed it was just the work of some whacky right-winger who knew that the language didn’t have a chance of surviving the first round of mark-ups in conference committee. When the Senate and House overwhelmingly voted for the bill, with the President signing it in the dead of night when no one was looking, it struck me that something very strange was happening, and so far, no one has offered a serious explanation of why this bill came to be and is now law.

What could possibly have caused even some of the most liberal and conservative of members of Congress to vote for such sweeping power, handed to whoever happens to be president, for as long as “the long war” (as the Pentagon supposedly calls it), continues? Since we fought a revolutionary war against England for, among other things, allowing the military to trash the lives of civilians, it has been clear that the United States military can not and should not have the power to arrest American citizens, on American soil, and disappear them to places like Guantanamo Bay forever.

What terrible and frightful scenario is going on at this very moment that caused an unholy trinity of Republicans, Democrats and the President to literally trash the Constitution and 200 years of successful separation of military and civilian authority?

Congress and the President have violated their oaths of office by writing and signing this law. If the United States military is holding a U.S. citizen in military custody and has not allowed that person to have a civilian lawyer and access to a civilian court, members of the military involved in that imprisonment have violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice and are committing treason.

Read the full article at:

http://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2012/01/05/theres-something-theyre-not-telling-us-president-signs-indefinite-detention-law/

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Money is the simplest and most logical explanation. LonePirate Jan 2012 #1
Or, in THIS case, bvar22 Jan 2012 #21
Obama signing that law is beyond the pale. So what if he won't use it. roguevalley Jan 2012 #34
Power corrupts..... vi5 Jan 2012 #2
Lord Acton ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #38
"This law is, if I may be not overly dramatic, treasonous." DJ13 Jan 2012 #3
Ergo, the appeal of Ron Paul to many people. closeupready Jan 2012 #23
Oh please--have you ever seen Ron Paul in his swimsuit? n/t QC Jan 2012 #40
Apparently none are troubled by such piffles indepat Jan 2012 #24
The Unitary Presidency (institutionalized under Cheney/Bush) is the norm... SteveW Jan 2012 #4
FEMA camps...we're all going to FEMA camps. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #5
Couple that with the Liebermann/Dent Bill making its' way through Congress and it's game, set match. Uncle Joe Jan 2012 #6
And control of the internet. woo me with science Jan 2012 #13
Interesting hypothesis. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #7
Very Interesting BeFree Jan 2012 #9
"I can't imagine that OWS was the impetus for the writing of this law" bvar22 Jan 2012 #22
consider the mannings of the world who will not save us for this. thanks, obama. roguevalley Jan 2012 #35
That language was write by Republicans and Obama had it taken OUT before he signed it and Welibs Jan 2012 #8
The author addresses that in the comments section: CrispyQ Jan 2012 #10
The next republican president will Autumn Jan 2012 #11
A signing statement doesn't mean jack shit . . . markpkessinger Jan 2012 #12
Mr. Obama works for Wall Street... lib2DaBone Jan 2012 #14
K&R woo me with science Jan 2012 #15
They say you can't fight what's comin'. I'd like to at least know what's coming. Poll_Blind Jan 2012 #16
We'd better damned well fight it now, woo me with science Jan 2012 #17
This correct and it is bipartisan. There is no just cause or good defense of the practices TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #18
No just cause, but I worry about their thinking. woo me with science Jan 2012 #30
The drug war. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #19
More like keeping that plant illegal in order to put folks in prison. a simple pattern Jan 2012 #37
The unfulfilled dreams of psychopaths. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #25
I thank the op for posting really important issues. Do you not think bbgrunt Jan 2012 #27
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #29
Those at the federal level are setting examples and providing weaponry for others at the local level AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #26
I would like to know Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #28
Our UNIFORMED troops are out of Iraq. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #31
War, and money. And the money that can be made from war. nt Romulox Jan 2012 #32
Fear. dawg Jan 2012 #33
I don't even know where to begin with this load of crap. MineralMan Jan 2012 #36
You could try to refute the article .... if you can. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #39
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