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In reply to the discussion: I'm actually in shock about how much negativity there is coming from democrats about [View all]JHB
(38,289 posts)27. Would appreciate your opinion on this article, Prof
https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2021/05/why-does-college-cost-so-much
Perhaps I'm being overly selective in the parts I'm quoting, but administrative bloat, "keeping up with the corporate executives" syndrome, and careerism and counterproductive incentives for administrators is a much bigger part of it than usually gets talked about. It certainly ain't adjunct professors working "gig academic" jobs causing ballooning costs.
Why does college cost so much?
By Paul Campos / On May 30, 2021 / At 8:51 am
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So why has the cost of college gone up so much, during an era when public subsidies for college have increased on a real dollar per student basis, overall per-instructor faculty compensation has declined sharply, and the degree premium has been transformed into essentially a statistical illusion, driven as it is by declining wages among non-graduates, rather than rising wages among those with degrees?
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(1) A huge increase in the amount of money thats being spent on administration. While over the past 40 years the size of university faculties has increased more slowly than student enrollment, the sheer number of university administrators has increased far faster than the student population. On top of this, while compensation for faculty has stagnated or declined, as salaries for full time faculty have barely kept pace with inflation, and more and more formerly full time positions have been filled by low-paid adjuncts, compensation for upper administration has exploded.
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(2) Closely related to (1), the upper administration of universities has become its own world, increasingly cut off from if not actively hostile to the faculties it is overseeing. As a rough generalization, prior to the 1980s or so, American universities were run by their own faculties: the top administrators were typically drawn from an institutions faculty, and they would usually rotate back into regular faculty positions after a time.
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(3) All this, of course, means that the people running American universities have to be positively obsessed with increasing revenue, in order to pay for all this resume-enhancing growth. For example, the annual expendable endowment income of my alma mater, the University of Michigan, is now equivalent, in constant inflation-adjusted dollars, to what was the combined total annual expendable endowment income of all the nations 1,497 public colleges and universities when I was an undergraduate 40 years ago. (During this time Michigans endowment has grown from $115 million to $12.5 billion).
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By Paul Campos / On May 30, 2021 / At 8:51 am
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So why has the cost of college gone up so much, during an era when public subsidies for college have increased on a real dollar per student basis, overall per-instructor faculty compensation has declined sharply, and the degree premium has been transformed into essentially a statistical illusion, driven as it is by declining wages among non-graduates, rather than rising wages among those with degrees?
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(1) A huge increase in the amount of money thats being spent on administration. While over the past 40 years the size of university faculties has increased more slowly than student enrollment, the sheer number of university administrators has increased far faster than the student population. On top of this, while compensation for faculty has stagnated or declined, as salaries for full time faculty have barely kept pace with inflation, and more and more formerly full time positions have been filled by low-paid adjuncts, compensation for upper administration has exploded.
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(2) Closely related to (1), the upper administration of universities has become its own world, increasingly cut off from if not actively hostile to the faculties it is overseeing. As a rough generalization, prior to the 1980s or so, American universities were run by their own faculties: the top administrators were typically drawn from an institutions faculty, and they would usually rotate back into regular faculty positions after a time.
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(3) All this, of course, means that the people running American universities have to be positively obsessed with increasing revenue, in order to pay for all this resume-enhancing growth. For example, the annual expendable endowment income of my alma mater, the University of Michigan, is now equivalent, in constant inflation-adjusted dollars, to what was the combined total annual expendable endowment income of all the nations 1,497 public colleges and universities when I was an undergraduate 40 years ago. (During this time Michigans endowment has grown from $115 million to $12.5 billion).
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Perhaps I'm being overly selective in the parts I'm quoting, but administrative bloat, "keeping up with the corporate executives" syndrome, and careerism and counterproductive incentives for administrators is a much bigger part of it than usually gets talked about. It certainly ain't adjunct professors working "gig academic" jobs causing ballooning costs.
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I'm actually in shock about how much negativity there is coming from democrats about [View all]
peoli
Jun 2021
OP
+1. The overhead is obscene - layer upon fucking layer of vice deans and useless paper pushers
dalton99a
Jun 2021
#4
No, if you look at the OPs prior post, it was about Biden simply writing off all student debt by EO
SoonerPride
Jun 2021
#38
All of which I could support. But an EO simply writing off billions is patently ridculous.
SoonerPride
Jun 2021
#41
Right. But this thread complains about the negativity of DUers in reply to the prior post of an EO
SoonerPride
Jun 2021
#44
To me it's mostly a problem of messaging ... 'cancelling' is a dumb framing to use
Hugh_Lebowski
Jun 2021
#3
Where is the discussion on why it is so expensive in the first place and how to fix it?
MichMan
Jun 2021
#7
Our federal and state governments used to understand that investing in education
summer_in_TX
Jun 2021
#9
+1. College administrators screwing the public in their quest to imitate corporate CEOs
dalton99a
Jun 2021
#43
Well, I choose a high paying major and was working at slightly over min. wage at the time
MichMan
Jun 2021
#55
How about those who are poor, didn't go to college and are working jobs that don't provide an
Scrivener7
Jun 2021
#60
You think people buried in student loan debt aren't also working their asses off?
peoli
Jun 2021
#61
Yes they are, i'm fine with them getting their loans removed and the one who paid it money back!
USALiberal
Jun 2021
#63
It's necessary. The younger generations are being destroyed by this economically
Withywindle
Jun 2021
#19
I worked my ass off through college and ended up w. minimal debt which I paid . . .
hatrack
Jun 2021
#26
It amounts to a wealth transfer from the poor to the middle and upper class
SoonerPride
Jun 2021
#47
If someone with a college degree is living in poverty, the issue goes beyond merely college debt.
George II
Jun 2021
#34
Personally, i wouldn't be adverse to limiting federal scholarships to STEM fields.
Calista241
Jun 2021
#64
I think there can be legitimate debate on how to proceed with policy changes on this issue.
totodeinhere
Jun 2021
#57