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pnwmom

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138. But you're not addressing the fact that EVERYONE, including this guy

Sat Jun 19, 2021, 11:47 PM

Jun 2021

was told that they needed to raise their thermostats, and take other measures, because of the electrical emergency.

He didn't think he needed to do his part. How do I know that? Because he didn't raise his thermostat to 78.

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In TX, some think their homes are "unbearably hot" when they reach 78 degrees. [View all] pnwmom Jun 2021 OP

I live in Central California. It was 111 today. vanlassie Jun 2021 #1

Right, your house feels cool compared to the 111 outside. It's all relative. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #2

Mmmm not exactly. On a day like today or when it's 80 out vanlassie Jun 2021 #5

But fans are a given in such a climate. You need moving air. vanlassie Jun 2021 #6

Also, in Seattle when it's hot we open windows at night, pnwmom Jun 2021 #12

Absolutely. There's an art to managing in hot climates. vanlassie Jun 2021 #42

Exactly canetoad Jun 2021 #106

Opening the windows is what I prefer to do when ChazII Jun 2021 #195

Yikes! A low of 91 WOULD be unbearable. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #196

One good aspect ChazII Jun 2021 #198

I Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #15

I turned into a penguin somewhere around the age of 55. MrsCoffee Jun 2021 #35

I'm with ya, MrsCoffee! Laffy Kat Jun 2021 #43

Same here! I was always one of those people who was freezing when everyone else smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #72

Menopause sucks Blue_playwright Jun 2021 #49

I'm sweating at 78 degrees. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #60

Right there with you, pretty much. My comfort zone is around 70. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #76

LOL.. if it gets above 75 in here.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #3

My house stays at 70 year round. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #4

I grew with window fans. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #7

I don't much like it when the weather people here are saying it will be a glorious day, pnwmom Jun 2021 #13

I do not like heat. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #22

Yes -- people in Seattle still use the fans to pull in cool night air. pnwmom Jun 2021 #23

Yes. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #38

Yeah, I didn't really mind the cold house. LeftInTX Jun 2021 #176

Need a big jump starters like for your car. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #189

It's a very personal thing..try being a menopausal woman trying to sleep, heavy set men, PortTack Jun 2021 #8

My grandparents had no choice because there was no air conditioning. pnwmom Jun 2021 #14

I get that. I grew up without AC PortTack Jun 2021 #58

Exactly.... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #178

They didn't have vaccines or antibiotics either TxGuitar Jun 2021 #185

Until everyone gets solar everything, electricity is adding to our carbon footprint. pnwmom Jun 2021 #188

Also many people are on meds that make you feel heat raccoon Jun 2021 #59

Oh, didn't realize that! smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #73

I keep mine at 73 during the day and 70 at night. Luciferous Jun 2021 #9

Part of this is relative humidity Sgent Jun 2021 #10

But what did people in East TX do before air conditioning came along? pnwmom Jun 2021 #17

Didn't live there Sgent Jun 2021 #26

+1 Hugin Jun 2021 #65

This! And those who did tended to die in higher numbers from Hortensis Jun 2021 #115

Before AC Texasgal Jun 2021 #136

Exactly. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #191

Sorry -stupid question Lithos Jun 2021 #11

I have relatives there so I know TX has both humid areas and dry areas. pnwmom Jun 2021 #16

Right... Lithos Jun 2021 #20

My relatives with the living room swamp cooler have no AC at all. pnwmom Jun 2021 #24

Grew up in TN and never even heard of a swamp cooler until I moved to Colorado. Laffy Kat Jun 2021 #46

Does not work globally Lithos Jun 2021 #50

Last I heard Dallas was a major city and they do sell them there. pnwmom Jun 2021 #54

They do not work in Dallas Lithos Jun 2021 #83

Leaving windows open at night was the traditional method of cooling houses pnwmom Jun 2021 #84

Yes, those are all used here Lithos Jun 2021 #100

They don't work in Dallas... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #179

Swamp cooler only works well in dry air. NutmegYankee Jun 2021 #36

That makes sense because the relative with it lives in a dryer part, near Dallas. pnwmom Jun 2021 #37

They only get 90% humidity at night. NutmegYankee Jun 2021 #40

for folks that are genetically a bit larger this is just the way things are cadoman Jun 2021 #18

But this guy was complaining about his 3 month old baby getting dehydrated. pnwmom Jun 2021 #27

That just silly. So when Seattle reached 78 or even 89, what are your nighttime lows? In the 60's. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #19

You're setting your thermostat to the same 78 that the TX people in the article pnwmom Jun 2021 #28

I was only calling Seattle with a high of 78 with a Florida summer. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #33

I've got a no AC house. It was 100 yesterday and 90+ today. Inside temp hit high-70s maximum. RockRaven Jun 2021 #21

That's the other thing I've noticed about houses in TX. pnwmom Jun 2021 #30

Wow! Where do you live? In the Deep South when that hot the lows are in the 80's. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #34

Fans are probably what southerners first had, since any kind of air conditioning is modern. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #55

Nor Cal/SF Bay Area. We usually get a 20 degree, or even 30+, high-low gradient, in peak summer RockRaven Jun 2021 #56

We don't build for the local climate Retrograde Jun 2021 #25

You sure about that? fescuerescue Jun 2021 #128

I keep my thermostat around 50 during the Winter... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #29

But I bet you could deal with 3 hours of 78 degree temps -- that's what this father pnwmom Jun 2021 #31

Sure, I can easily deal with it for awhile. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #32

120 isn't bad if you have enough water and are covered to avoid sunburn struggle4progress Jun 2021 #51

Yes, and my sweat glands work prodigiously... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #53

It's hot and humid in TX. LisaL Jun 2021 #57

And the person in question is a new father panicking over their baby Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #172

Very TxGuitar Jun 2021 #184

It amazes me rownesheck Jun 2021 #39

The large majority of people in San Fran and Seattle don't have it. pnwmom Jun 2021 #41

I never had AC when I lived in San Francisco. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #74

A lot of homes and buildings don't have A/C there. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #45

My son lives in the East Bay -Walnut Creek. Very little AC anywhere vanlassie Jun 2021 #47

I'm very surprised they don't have AC Sympthsical Jun 2021 #52

He actually lives in Pleasant Hill. House built in 1956. vanlassie Jun 2021 #66

That explains a lot Sympthsical Jun 2021 #68

Only 36% in San Fran have air-conditioning. #2 lowest in the country after Seattle, with 1/3. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #95

Is that including the outer counties? Like Contra Costa, Solano, Napa, Sonoma, etc.? Sympthsical Jun 2021 #96

It was a list of major cities, so I don't know whether it was specific to the cities pnwmom Jun 2021 #98

That can be very hard to pin down with the Bay Area Sympthsical Jun 2021 #99

I lived in Seattle for a few years when I was a kid LeftInTX Jun 2021 #177

I'm in Oakland and my family and I don't have AC, jml510 Jun 2021 #61

Don't forget the humidity Captain Zero Jun 2021 #44

I grew up in the desert, 110 days, 80 nights RainCaster Jun 2021 #48

"Was my daughter at the point of overheating? She's 3 months old. They dehydrate very quickly." Mariana Jun 2021 #62

That's what I thought. pnwmom Jun 2021 #75

Air conditioning is more than about temperature. It's also about removing humidity. Goodheart Jun 2021 #63

But the guy's complaint was that the baby would DEHYDRATE during its nap, pnwmom Jun 2021 #77

When the humidity is high, it does not cool off at night. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2021 #97

I have trouble sleeping when the apartment is more than 65 or so. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #64

78 with a ceiling fan is perfectly fine. ananda Jun 2021 #67

I'm good with 78 susanr516 Jun 2021 #163

Sounds like the program needs to better educate its potential enrollees. David__77 Jun 2021 #69

They may not be educable, depending on how many are Trump fans. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #94

78 Degrees is a lovely day in Massachusetts. Tracer Jun 2021 #70

I'm in central MA and I find myself mostly just using it in the evenings now Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #173

When it's 78 outside and 78 in TxGuitar Jun 2021 #186

78 could be hot if it's humid and no breeze. Renew Deal Jun 2021 #71

That's how it is in TX. LisaL Jun 2021 #78

Not all of TX. There are dry and humid areas. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #80

Well, it certainly is very hot and humid in the Houston area, where this incident took place. LisaL Jun 2021 #81

Right. And so the guy's idea that his baby would become dehydrated during a nap pnwmom Jun 2021 #85

Wouldn't that depend on how much and for how long it had been sweating? herding cats Jun 2021 #86

This was a NAP. What do you think people did before AC? I grew up in a humid city. pnwmom Jun 2021 #87

So, what? herding cats Jun 2021 #89

And then the baby gets warm and cries, and you wake up. pnwmom Jun 2021 #93

Ok herding cats Jun 2021 #101

I'd like to see one reported instance of a baby's life being threatened because of 78 degree temps, pnwmom Jun 2021 #102

The point of his angst flew miles above you. herding cats Jun 2021 #103

He's got "angst" because he was deliberately ignoring the state saying to raise it to 78 pnwmom Jun 2021 #104

Here ya go. herding cats Jun 2021 #109

This article is about days of 90 and over. There's a big difference pnwmom Jun 2021 #110

You just used 90 degree days as a litmus test in your post to me above. herding cats Jun 2021 #113

You just keep moving your goalpost and never address anything relevant. herding cats Jun 2021 #142

Typical Texas hate. Texasgal Jun 2021 #141

This one is peculiar. herding cats Jun 2021 #143

What's being said by this poster Texasgal Jun 2021 #149

Sister, we're speaking the same language. herding cats Jun 2021 #152

I fear August... Texasgal Jun 2021 #154

I purchased a generator. herding cats Jun 2021 #158

I was out four days too. Texasgal Jun 2021 #160

My heart to you! herding cats Jun 2021 #161

How is the guy in the OP complaining about being forced to conserve energy for 3 hours pnwmom Jun 2021 #197

I lived in VA in a high humidity city. 78 is not "unbearably hot" no matter what the humidity. pnwmom Jun 2021 #79

It's not that hard to provide a breeze in the house. Mariana Jun 2021 #92

My house has no cross ventiliation... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #180

The AC wasn't out at Mr. England's house. Mariana Jun 2021 #181

The baby was probably bundled too LeftInTX Jun 2021 #183

I turned off my ac last nite. LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #82

I keep my house around 80, and if the outside temp Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #90

Radiant heat also plays a factor. herding cats Jun 2021 #88

But the guy said "the house" had gotten to 78. Surely he would have mentioned pnwmom Jun 2021 #107

At the the thermostat herding cats Jun 2021 #108

They gave him notice when he bought the thing. From the article: pnwmom Jun 2021 #111

He says they didn't know and canceled it after this. herding cats Jun 2021 #112

He had to have known they were telling everyone in the state to lower temps to 78 degrees. pnwmom Jun 2021 #120

I live here. There was zero warning smart thermostats were going to do that. herding cats Jun 2021 #121

That's not what I was talking about. They told EVERYONE in the state they should pnwmom Jun 2021 #123

News flash: you don't know what you're speaking of. herding cats Jun 2021 #126

But again, you keep ignoring anything outside of your narrative. herding cats Jun 2021 #124

Also, you don't know him and broad brush tactics suck. herding cats Jun 2021 #118

Okay, if it's a lovely spring day when it's 78 outside, pnwmom Jun 2021 #122

Night. herding cats Jun 2021 #132

People are stupid and unaware of their stupidity. maxsolomon Jun 2021 #91

Delicate snowflakes. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #105

110 today at 3:30. Only 100 now at 6:56. panader0 Jun 2021 #114

6/100ths last night! Kali Jun 2021 #193

Here in GA we use fans also. A lot. Windows open to the beautiful Hortensis Jun 2021 #116

The energy company just raised it for 3 hours to 78 degrees. pnwmom Jun 2021 #117

Ouch. At least our choices are our choices -- so far, not the power company's. Hortensis Jun 2021 #119

I remember when the TX Gov. was mocking CA for its rolling blackouts. pnwmom Jun 2021 #129

3 hours at 78 degrees is hardly "unremitting heat". Mariana Jun 2021 #125

No one said that is, Mariana. I did say unremitting heat kills without Hortensis Jun 2021 #130

You have to take humidity into account in these discussions fescuerescue Jun 2021 #127

I lived in VA and understand humidity. Even when it's very humid, 78 isn't unbearable. pnwmom Jun 2021 #131

Most people prefer to not be uncomfortable fescuerescue Jun 2021 #133

True. But the state is having an electrical emergency because several of its generators pnwmom Jun 2021 #134

You should stay out of this if you don't want to help. herding cats Jun 2021 #137

But you're not addressing the fact that EVERYONE, including this guy pnwmom Jun 2021 #138

Do you not hear me? herding cats Jun 2021 #139

I know that about ERCOT. How does that address the fact that there was an electrical emergency pnwmom Jun 2021 #140

No, you're not hearing me. herding cats Jun 2021 #144

A shortfall of 12,000 megawatts due to mechanical problems at multiple power plants, pnwmom Jun 2021 #146

It wasn't a heatwave. herding cats Jun 2021 #148

"Texas power grid, strained last winter, now faces an early heat wave." pnwmom Jun 2021 #153

Read what you just posted. herding cats Jun 2021 #156

It's that "heatwave" called summer. TxGuitar Jun 2021 #187

This was the issue they won't address. herding cats Jun 2021 #145

I agree with you that ERCOT has been doing a terrible job, and I feel much sympathy for people pnwmom Jun 2021 #147

Honestly, who cares? herding cats Jun 2021 #150

You are really not getting it. Texasgal Jun 2021 #151

Of course 98 degrees with 48% humidity is awful. pnwmom Jun 2021 #155

Set to 78 without his knowledge. Texasgal Jun 2021 #159

I'm not defending ERCOT at all. I'm defending energy conservation, which we all pnwmom Jun 2021 #162

Lucky for you Texasgal Jun 2021 #164

Yes, we should all be doing what we can to conserve energy, every day. Climate change is real. pnwmom Jun 2021 #165

Or maybe FIX the grid? Texasgal Jun 2021 #166

That's essential but it's just the start. The TX economy, like most of the pnwmom Jun 2021 #167

What?! herding cats Jun 2021 #169

During most of the year, your electric bills are quite a bit lower than most of the country. pnwmom Jun 2021 #170

Good post. TraceNC Jun 2021 #171

My AC removes at least 10 gallons of water from the air every day. LeftInTX Jun 2021 #135

I wonder how that dehumidifying function is affected by raising the thermostat to 78 from 72. pnwmom Jun 2021 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Jun 2021 #168

The cooler you set it, the more water it removes LeftInTX Jun 2021 #175

I have a dehumidifier in the cellar. Mariana Jun 2021 #182

Reading through this thread at once, it really feels like this main complaint by the OP is Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #174

He's not a first time father since the article mentions their daughters. pnwmom Jun 2021 #192

while judging what people need to stay healthy is probably wrong Kali Jun 2021 #190

And he's probably one of the many anti-maskers. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #194