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158. I purchased a generator.

Sun Jun 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

Jun 2021

One which works on propane and can sustain at the least the basics.

I have serious trust issues. Massive ones! I went 4 days without heat in February. I wasn't even on the rolling grid until day 4 and I was so happy to even have that. I never want to be that person again.

Even my succulents froze to death then in my home. Nope! That crap was untenable.

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In TX, some think their homes are "unbearably hot" when they reach 78 degrees. [View all] pnwmom Jun 2021 OP

I live in Central California. It was 111 today. vanlassie Jun 2021 #1

Right, your house feels cool compared to the 111 outside. It's all relative. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #2

Mmmm not exactly. On a day like today or when it's 80 out vanlassie Jun 2021 #5

But fans are a given in such a climate. You need moving air. vanlassie Jun 2021 #6

Also, in Seattle when it's hot we open windows at night, pnwmom Jun 2021 #12

Absolutely. There's an art to managing in hot climates. vanlassie Jun 2021 #42

Exactly canetoad Jun 2021 #106

Opening the windows is what I prefer to do when ChazII Jun 2021 #195

Yikes! A low of 91 WOULD be unbearable. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #196

One good aspect ChazII Jun 2021 #198

I Maru Kitteh Jun 2021 #15

I turned into a penguin somewhere around the age of 55. MrsCoffee Jun 2021 #35

I'm with ya, MrsCoffee! Laffy Kat Jun 2021 #43

Same here! I was always one of those people who was freezing when everyone else smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #72

Menopause sucks Blue_playwright Jun 2021 #49

I'm sweating at 78 degrees. Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #60

Right there with you, pretty much. My comfort zone is around 70. N/T Jedi Guy Jun 2021 #76

LOL.. if it gets above 75 in here.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #3

My house stays at 70 year round. SoonerPride Jun 2021 #4

I grew with window fans. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #7

I don't much like it when the weather people here are saying it will be a glorious day, pnwmom Jun 2021 #13

I do not like heat. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #22

Yes -- people in Seattle still use the fans to pull in cool night air. pnwmom Jun 2021 #23

Yes. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #38

Yeah, I didn't really mind the cold house. LeftInTX Jun 2021 #176

Need a big jump starters like for your car. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #189

It's a very personal thing..try being a menopausal woman trying to sleep, heavy set men, PortTack Jun 2021 #8

My grandparents had no choice because there was no air conditioning. pnwmom Jun 2021 #14

I get that. I grew up without AC PortTack Jun 2021 #58

Exactly.... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #178

They didn't have vaccines or antibiotics either TxGuitar Jun 2021 #185

Until everyone gets solar everything, electricity is adding to our carbon footprint. pnwmom Jun 2021 #188

Also many people are on meds that make you feel heat raccoon Jun 2021 #59

Oh, didn't realize that! smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #73

I keep mine at 73 during the day and 70 at night. Luciferous Jun 2021 #9

Part of this is relative humidity Sgent Jun 2021 #10

But what did people in East TX do before air conditioning came along? pnwmom Jun 2021 #17

Didn't live there Sgent Jun 2021 #26

+1 Hugin Jun 2021 #65

This! And those who did tended to die in higher numbers from Hortensis Jun 2021 #115

Before AC Texasgal Jun 2021 #136

Exactly. Texaswitchy Jun 2021 #191

Sorry -stupid question Lithos Jun 2021 #11

I have relatives there so I know TX has both humid areas and dry areas. pnwmom Jun 2021 #16

Right... Lithos Jun 2021 #20

My relatives with the living room swamp cooler have no AC at all. pnwmom Jun 2021 #24

Grew up in TN and never even heard of a swamp cooler until I moved to Colorado. Laffy Kat Jun 2021 #46

Does not work globally Lithos Jun 2021 #50

Last I heard Dallas was a major city and they do sell them there. pnwmom Jun 2021 #54

They do not work in Dallas Lithos Jun 2021 #83

Leaving windows open at night was the traditional method of cooling houses pnwmom Jun 2021 #84

Yes, those are all used here Lithos Jun 2021 #100

They don't work in Dallas... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #179

Swamp cooler only works well in dry air. NutmegYankee Jun 2021 #36

That makes sense because the relative with it lives in a dryer part, near Dallas. pnwmom Jun 2021 #37

They only get 90% humidity at night. NutmegYankee Jun 2021 #40

for folks that are genetically a bit larger this is just the way things are cadoman Jun 2021 #18

But this guy was complaining about his 3 month old baby getting dehydrated. pnwmom Jun 2021 #27

That just silly. So when Seattle reached 78 or even 89, what are your nighttime lows? In the 60's. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #19

You're setting your thermostat to the same 78 that the TX people in the article pnwmom Jun 2021 #28

I was only calling Seattle with a high of 78 with a Florida summer. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #33

I've got a no AC house. It was 100 yesterday and 90+ today. Inside temp hit high-70s maximum. RockRaven Jun 2021 #21

That's the other thing I've noticed about houses in TX. pnwmom Jun 2021 #30

Wow! Where do you live? In the Deep South when that hot the lows are in the 80's. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #34

Fans are probably what southerners first had, since any kind of air conditioning is modern. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #55

Nor Cal/SF Bay Area. We usually get a 20 degree, or even 30+, high-low gradient, in peak summer RockRaven Jun 2021 #56

We don't build for the local climate Retrograde Jun 2021 #25

You sure about that? fescuerescue Jun 2021 #128

I keep my thermostat around 50 during the Winter... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #29

But I bet you could deal with 3 hours of 78 degree temps -- that's what this father pnwmom Jun 2021 #31

Sure, I can easily deal with it for awhile. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #32

120 isn't bad if you have enough water and are covered to avoid sunburn struggle4progress Jun 2021 #51

Yes, and my sweat glands work prodigiously... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #53

It's hot and humid in TX. LisaL Jun 2021 #57

And the person in question is a new father panicking over their baby Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #172

Very TxGuitar Jun 2021 #184

It amazes me rownesheck Jun 2021 #39

The large majority of people in San Fran and Seattle don't have it. pnwmom Jun 2021 #41

I never had AC when I lived in San Francisco. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #74

A lot of homes and buildings don't have A/C there. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #45

My son lives in the East Bay -Walnut Creek. Very little AC anywhere vanlassie Jun 2021 #47

I'm very surprised they don't have AC Sympthsical Jun 2021 #52

He actually lives in Pleasant Hill. House built in 1956. vanlassie Jun 2021 #66

That explains a lot Sympthsical Jun 2021 #68

Only 36% in San Fran have air-conditioning. #2 lowest in the country after Seattle, with 1/3. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #95

Is that including the outer counties? Like Contra Costa, Solano, Napa, Sonoma, etc.? Sympthsical Jun 2021 #96

It was a list of major cities, so I don't know whether it was specific to the cities pnwmom Jun 2021 #98

That can be very hard to pin down with the Bay Area Sympthsical Jun 2021 #99

I lived in Seattle for a few years when I was a kid LeftInTX Jun 2021 #177

I'm in Oakland and my family and I don't have AC, jml510 Jun 2021 #61

Don't forget the humidity Captain Zero Jun 2021 #44

I grew up in the desert, 110 days, 80 nights RainCaster Jun 2021 #48

"Was my daughter at the point of overheating? She's 3 months old. They dehydrate very quickly." Mariana Jun 2021 #62

That's what I thought. pnwmom Jun 2021 #75

Air conditioning is more than about temperature. It's also about removing humidity. Goodheart Jun 2021 #63

But the guy's complaint was that the baby would DEHYDRATE during its nap, pnwmom Jun 2021 #77

When the humidity is high, it does not cool off at night. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2021 #97

I have trouble sleeping when the apartment is more than 65 or so. Dial H For Hero Jun 2021 #64

78 with a ceiling fan is perfectly fine. ananda Jun 2021 #67

I'm good with 78 susanr516 Jun 2021 #163

Sounds like the program needs to better educate its potential enrollees. David__77 Jun 2021 #69

They may not be educable, depending on how many are Trump fans. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #94

78 Degrees is a lovely day in Massachusetts. Tracer Jun 2021 #70

I'm in central MA and I find myself mostly just using it in the evenings now Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #173

When it's 78 outside and 78 in TxGuitar Jun 2021 #186

78 could be hot if it's humid and no breeze. Renew Deal Jun 2021 #71

That's how it is in TX. LisaL Jun 2021 #78

Not all of TX. There are dry and humid areas. nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #80

Well, it certainly is very hot and humid in the Houston area, where this incident took place. LisaL Jun 2021 #81

Right. And so the guy's idea that his baby would become dehydrated during a nap pnwmom Jun 2021 #85

Wouldn't that depend on how much and for how long it had been sweating? herding cats Jun 2021 #86

This was a NAP. What do you think people did before AC? I grew up in a humid city. pnwmom Jun 2021 #87

So, what? herding cats Jun 2021 #89

And then the baby gets warm and cries, and you wake up. pnwmom Jun 2021 #93

Ok herding cats Jun 2021 #101

I'd like to see one reported instance of a baby's life being threatened because of 78 degree temps, pnwmom Jun 2021 #102

The point of his angst flew miles above you. herding cats Jun 2021 #103

He's got "angst" because he was deliberately ignoring the state saying to raise it to 78 pnwmom Jun 2021 #104

Here ya go. herding cats Jun 2021 #109

This article is about days of 90 and over. There's a big difference pnwmom Jun 2021 #110

You just used 90 degree days as a litmus test in your post to me above. herding cats Jun 2021 #113

You just keep moving your goalpost and never address anything relevant. herding cats Jun 2021 #142

Typical Texas hate. Texasgal Jun 2021 #141

This one is peculiar. herding cats Jun 2021 #143

What's being said by this poster Texasgal Jun 2021 #149

Sister, we're speaking the same language. herding cats Jun 2021 #152

I fear August... Texasgal Jun 2021 #154

I purchased a generator. herding cats Jun 2021 #158

I was out four days too. Texasgal Jun 2021 #160

My heart to you! herding cats Jun 2021 #161

How is the guy in the OP complaining about being forced to conserve energy for 3 hours pnwmom Jun 2021 #197

I lived in VA in a high humidity city. 78 is not "unbearably hot" no matter what the humidity. pnwmom Jun 2021 #79

It's not that hard to provide a breeze in the house. Mariana Jun 2021 #92

My house has no cross ventiliation... LeftInTX Jun 2021 #180

The AC wasn't out at Mr. England's house. Mariana Jun 2021 #181

The baby was probably bundled too LeftInTX Jun 2021 #183

I turned off my ac last nite. LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #82

I keep my house around 80, and if the outside temp Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #90

Radiant heat also plays a factor. herding cats Jun 2021 #88

But the guy said "the house" had gotten to 78. Surely he would have mentioned pnwmom Jun 2021 #107

At the the thermostat herding cats Jun 2021 #108

They gave him notice when he bought the thing. From the article: pnwmom Jun 2021 #111

He says they didn't know and canceled it after this. herding cats Jun 2021 #112

He had to have known they were telling everyone in the state to lower temps to 78 degrees. pnwmom Jun 2021 #120

I live here. There was zero warning smart thermostats were going to do that. herding cats Jun 2021 #121

That's not what I was talking about. They told EVERYONE in the state they should pnwmom Jun 2021 #123

News flash: you don't know what you're speaking of. herding cats Jun 2021 #126

But again, you keep ignoring anything outside of your narrative. herding cats Jun 2021 #124

Also, you don't know him and broad brush tactics suck. herding cats Jun 2021 #118

Okay, if it's a lovely spring day when it's 78 outside, pnwmom Jun 2021 #122

Night. herding cats Jun 2021 #132

People are stupid and unaware of their stupidity. maxsolomon Jun 2021 #91

Delicate snowflakes. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #105

110 today at 3:30. Only 100 now at 6:56. panader0 Jun 2021 #114

6/100ths last night! Kali Jun 2021 #193

Here in GA we use fans also. A lot. Windows open to the beautiful Hortensis Jun 2021 #116

The energy company just raised it for 3 hours to 78 degrees. pnwmom Jun 2021 #117

Ouch. At least our choices are our choices -- so far, not the power company's. Hortensis Jun 2021 #119

I remember when the TX Gov. was mocking CA for its rolling blackouts. pnwmom Jun 2021 #129

3 hours at 78 degrees is hardly "unremitting heat". Mariana Jun 2021 #125

No one said that is, Mariana. I did say unremitting heat kills without Hortensis Jun 2021 #130

You have to take humidity into account in these discussions fescuerescue Jun 2021 #127

I lived in VA and understand humidity. Even when it's very humid, 78 isn't unbearable. pnwmom Jun 2021 #131

Most people prefer to not be uncomfortable fescuerescue Jun 2021 #133

True. But the state is having an electrical emergency because several of its generators pnwmom Jun 2021 #134

You should stay out of this if you don't want to help. herding cats Jun 2021 #137

But you're not addressing the fact that EVERYONE, including this guy pnwmom Jun 2021 #138

Do you not hear me? herding cats Jun 2021 #139

I know that about ERCOT. How does that address the fact that there was an electrical emergency pnwmom Jun 2021 #140

No, you're not hearing me. herding cats Jun 2021 #144

A shortfall of 12,000 megawatts due to mechanical problems at multiple power plants, pnwmom Jun 2021 #146

It wasn't a heatwave. herding cats Jun 2021 #148

"Texas power grid, strained last winter, now faces an early heat wave." pnwmom Jun 2021 #153

Read what you just posted. herding cats Jun 2021 #156

It's that "heatwave" called summer. TxGuitar Jun 2021 #187

This was the issue they won't address. herding cats Jun 2021 #145

I agree with you that ERCOT has been doing a terrible job, and I feel much sympathy for people pnwmom Jun 2021 #147

Honestly, who cares? herding cats Jun 2021 #150

You are really not getting it. Texasgal Jun 2021 #151

Of course 98 degrees with 48% humidity is awful. pnwmom Jun 2021 #155

Set to 78 without his knowledge. Texasgal Jun 2021 #159

I'm not defending ERCOT at all. I'm defending energy conservation, which we all pnwmom Jun 2021 #162

Lucky for you Texasgal Jun 2021 #164

Yes, we should all be doing what we can to conserve energy, every day. Climate change is real. pnwmom Jun 2021 #165

Or maybe FIX the grid? Texasgal Jun 2021 #166

That's essential but it's just the start. The TX economy, like most of the pnwmom Jun 2021 #167

What?! herding cats Jun 2021 #169

During most of the year, your electric bills are quite a bit lower than most of the country. pnwmom Jun 2021 #170

Good post. TraceNC Jun 2021 #171

My AC removes at least 10 gallons of water from the air every day. LeftInTX Jun 2021 #135

I wonder how that dehumidifying function is affected by raising the thermostat to 78 from 72. pnwmom Jun 2021 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Jun 2021 #168

The cooler you set it, the more water it removes LeftInTX Jun 2021 #175

I have a dehumidifier in the cellar. Mariana Jun 2021 #182

Reading through this thread at once, it really feels like this main complaint by the OP is Blue_Adept Jun 2021 #174

He's not a first time father since the article mentions their daughters. pnwmom Jun 2021 #192

while judging what people need to stay healthy is probably wrong Kali Jun 2021 #190

And he's probably one of the many anti-maskers. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #194