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Yavin4

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75. We know that cases will surge among the unvaccinated so the real metrics are
Sun Jun 20, 2021, 12:20 PM
Jun 2021

hospitalizations and deaths. Those metrics are indeed ticking up again in the UK, but not surging to emergency levels. That's all due to their botching of the vaccine rollout.

To me the gold standard is Israel. They've almost completely vaccinated their population, and they've only had 6 deaths in the last 30 days. Zero deaths in the last 7 days.

Until there's strong evidence that the mutations can breakthrough the fully vaccinated, I will go about my life as I did before the pandemic. I do not have the luxury of giving any more of my time over to covid.

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The More Of Them That Die, The Better SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #1
It is a self-inflicted wound JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #2
K & R Budi Jun 2021 #9
Plus innocent bystanders. wnylib Jun 2021 #42
I Know, But That's Unavoidable SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #60
I would like to see/hear some public service wnylib Jun 2021 #67
A few days after CDC Director changed the mask guidelines, she tweeted that immune compromised liberal_mama Jun 2021 #83
I've noticed the same thing regarding age wnylib Jun 2021 #85
+1000 n/t OhioChick Jun 2021 #98
Yes, stupidity is its own reward. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #15
Is it Creating Two Americas or Revealling Two Americas? One smart and the other stoopid. TheBlackAdder Jun 2021 #66
Exactly. I don't really care bamagal62 Jun 2021 #4
I sort of agree but Jerry2144 Jun 2021 #19
I'm for sanctions for those who don't have a real, verifiable reason to avoid vaccination. Politicub Jun 2021 #50
"Social distancing and masks will remain for a long time, I suspect. " Yavin4 Jun 2021 #55
Totally agree. nt TheFarseer Jun 2021 #71
I agree kimbutgar Jun 2021 #5
My God. nolabear Jun 2021 #33
Don't be so shocked! newdayneeded Jun 2021 #62
The christofascists choose to test their God and then proclaim it is faith...let them. Thomas Hurt Jun 2021 #3
But doG says "I sent you masks & epidemiologists & 3 vaccines. You didn't need more than that." . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2021 #16
EXACTLY!!! oldsoftie Jun 2021 #34
Thx, Budi. SheltieLover Jun 2021 #6
The CDC should disclose breakthrough infections. It doesn't inspire confidence when they are hiding liberal_mama Jun 2021 #11
CDC absolutely should track & report accurately! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #12
Getting people to mask up again is going to be harder than before. -nt CrispyQ Jun 2021 #13
Imho, CDC saying masks not needed if fully vaxed was a mistake SheltieLover Jun 2021 #21
Big mistake Meowmee Jun 2021 #40
And delta is no slouch, sadly! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #44
Yes delta is already spreading fast Meowmee Jun 2021 #51
Me either, Meow! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #78
Last week, my doctor told me that he felt the new CDC guidelines on masking were a terrible mistake liberal_mama Jun 2021 #45
Good for him Meowmee Jun 2021 #48
Sorry to hear you are both long-hauling SheltieLover Jun 2021 #81
Thanks Meowmee Jun 2021 #87
Glad to hear your back pain is improving! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #91
Thnx Meowmee Jun 2021 #94
Yw! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #95
I just cannot fathom their reasoning SheltieLover Jun 2021 #79
Yep, I don't understand it either. LisaL Jun 2021 #80
Me too. I told my son that I need to restock my canned goods and freezer soon liberal_mama Jun 2021 #82
Pls also read #11 abbove SheltieLover Jun 2021 #47
Yes I read at the time of the new mask decision Meowmee Jun 2021 #52
So sorry to hear you listened to bs! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #53
Yes obviously I was not listening to anything dump said etc Meowmee Jun 2021 #54
Yep pure craziness imo Meowmee Jun 2021 #88
For sure! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #89
Thanks Meowmee Jun 2021 #90
Yw, 🐯 SheltieLover Jun 2021 #92
I am not sure what cdc is doing here either. LisaL Jun 2021 #73
I think it was due to political pressure, the decision now, Meowmee Jun 2021 #86
We don't even have enough people vaccinated to reach herd immunity.... OhioChick Jun 2021 #99
The CDC made their mask announcement on May 13th and there's been no increase in hospitalizations Yavin4 Jun 2021 #57
Delta is just starting to spread in the US. LisaL Jun 2021 #72
We know that cases will surge among the unvaccinated so the real metrics are Yavin4 Jun 2021 #75
I am also masking even though I am vaccinated fully. LisaL Jun 2021 #76
That's why I'm not giving up my masks anytime soon. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #28
neither are we. Also, my non-vaccinated in-laws are not allowed inside yellowdogintexas Jun 2021 #39
In Erie County, NY (Buffalo area), 8% of cases wnylib Jun 2021 #46
That is to be expected, since vaccines are not 100 % effective. LisaL Jun 2021 #56
It's a good reminder that no vaccine wnylib Jun 2021 #65
Even young healthy people can die from delta. LisaL Jun 2021 #77
Very true, but I was referring specifically wnylib Jun 2021 #84
I read Pfizer is 79% effective against Delta SheltieLover Jun 2021 #93
I read the same figure for Pfizer wnylib Jun 2021 #96
Same here, Wyn! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #100
I've been restocking, too. wnylib Jun 2021 #101
Same here SheltieLover Jun 2021 #102
Look at this SheltieLover Jun 2021 #103
Check this out, Wyn SheltieLover Jun 2021 #104
That is scary. People who are not vaccinated wnylib Jun 2021 #105
I agree with your risk list SheltieLover Jun 2021 #106
Higher infection and death rates wnylib Jun 2021 #107
I agree! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #108
Yes, I read that thread. wnylib Jun 2021 #109
I sure hope they are right about #s not changing from delta SheltieLover Jun 2021 #110
The number of breakthrough infections wnylib Jun 2021 #111
We are in complete agreement, Wyn SheltieLover Jun 2021 #112
100% Agree!! OhioChick Jun 2021 #64
Ikr! The article talks about the risks also. But this is a good argument for having the vax. Budi Jun 2021 #20
Ty, Budi! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #22
In my area, plenty of shots are available, free of charge. Midnight Writer Jun 2021 #7
It's also an economic problem. Turbineguy Jun 2021 #8
It could become an economic problem wnylib Jun 2021 #49
Seriously, all of us adults should risk magnetism and GET VAXXED. dawg day Jun 2021 #10
I only care about the kids that can't get vaxxed and those who cannot for medical reasons. roamer65 Jun 2021 #14
Kids will be fine... Jon King Jun 2021 #17
Red state, blue state bucolic_frolic Jun 2021 #18
I don't give a fuck about any American adult who is unvaccinated by choice. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #23
The "I don't wannas" will be in a world of hurt Warpy Jun 2021 #24
Darwin Awards sfdennis1 Jun 2021 #25
Pfizer is very effective against the Delta strain. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #30
Mississippi, what's up? WarGamer Jun 2021 #26
I hate to be insensitive, but do these people think that blacks are being given different vaccines Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #35
Most of the African Americans in SW Ohio are from... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #43
This has really exposed how f'd up we are. No unity or common purpose anymore. Evolve Dammit Jun 2021 #27
With the largest state, California, there will be 2 Californias, & I'd like to see that shown... Hekate Jun 2021 #29
Lots of people here cheering for that outcome. BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #31
If the idiots wanna kill themselves, Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #41
If it was only themselves it affected, Susan Calvin Jun 2021 #32
Evolution on full display. augyboston Jun 2021 #36
no vaccine? no treatment rdking647 Jun 2021 #37
They think it is a liberal plot meant to kill them; oldsoftie Jun 2021 #38
The cognitive dissonance conservatives manage treestar Jun 2021 #74
Israel, the beloved country of the American right, is nearing 100% vaccination of their people. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #58
If that side of America wants to die so be it vercetti2021 Jun 2021 #59
Exactly! beaglelover Jun 2021 #61
I think it's mostly an evangelical Christian divide. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2021 #63
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2021 #68
Another reason to get vaccinated Mosby Jun 2021 #69
Delta variants coming to a red state nearby ... BlueWavePsych Jun 2021 #70
This Part is Concerning..... OhioChick Jun 2021 #97
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