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RegularJam

(914 posts) Mon Jun 21, 2021, 05:38 PM Jun 2021

I'm going to make the Covid / Flu comparison... [View all]

No, not the one where it’s claimed the flu as we know it is just as bad as Covid.

I remember talking to people about herd immunity and we all thought it was a possibility. We aren’t even going to come close. The world population won’t even come close.

I’m seeing preventative measures that will look very similar to the flu, as we know it.

Annual vaccine. A board will make an educated guess about which strains will be bad that year.

That’s going to be the long game.

Unfortunately Covid 19 is more harmful.

Flame away. Even if I’m spot on here I’ve done something in the last week to earn your scorn. 😁

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I'm going to make the Covid / Flu comparison... [View all] RegularJam Jun 2021 OP

I NEVER Thought Herd Immunity Was A Possibility SoCalDavidS Jun 2021 #1

I got wrapped up in the idea of herd immunity. RegularJam Jun 2021 #2

Most people misunderstand herd immunity anyway... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #3

Love the content of your post. RegularJam Jun 2021 #4

Herd immunity doesn't mean that nobody gets sick... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #5

I think we are a bit far off on the flu. RegularJam Jun 2021 #8

That's not what herd immunity means. Crunchy Frog Jun 2021 #36

If masks stopped the colds/flu, why didn't they also stop COVID-19 transmissions Yavin4 Jun 2021 #10

Because COVID 19 is even more transmissible than influenza and colds. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #14

More to the point, a lot of people were casual at best about wearing masks. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #16

That, too - Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #19

Casual mask wearing is, in itself, an argument against masks as an effective weapon against COVID. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #27

So masks are not as effective as everyone assumes, right? Yavin4 Jun 2021 #26

The means of transmission is not identical - Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #29

"when masks are properly fitted and consistently worn" Yavin4 Jun 2021 #31

We obviously aren't willing to do that. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #32

Because it is more contagious. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #45

I agree about the "Macho" thing, but it also has to come from work culture. Caliman73 Jun 2021 #11

I cannot argue that at all. It has to be both sides, employer and employee... Wounded Bear Jun 2021 #12

we will eventually get to "herd immunity" lapfog_1 Jun 2021 #13

The unvaccinated are not going to die in large numbers. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #21

I can always hope, no? lapfog_1 Jun 2021 #23

And you can believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #42

Probably a large percentage of the unvaccinated have natural antibodies by now womanofthehills Jun 2021 #30

natural immunity and acquired immunity have been shown to lapfog_1 Jun 2021 #35

Natural immunity is also a thing. Ace Rothstein Jun 2021 #6

It doesn't apply here. RegularJam Jun 2021 #7

Please explain how. Ace Rothstein Jun 2021 #9

No flame here. I've gotten the regular flu vaccine every year now for many years. I abqtommy Jun 2021 #15

If herd immunity was possible, wouldn't it have happened with the flu years ago... brush Jun 2021 #17

No, because influenza mutates readily and steadily. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #22

And all these covid variants aren't mutations? We'll probably get yearly covid shots... brush Jun 2021 #24

They are mutations. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #37

I said all along that herd immunity doesn't happen with the flu. brush Jun 2021 #50

What happened in Sweden with their health minister's herd immunity strategy... brush Jun 2021 #25

Sweden's death per million has them PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #38

But you can't discount they are healthier than us. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #46

Good points. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #52

Me to. Or getting there thanks to covid. I've lost 35lbs in the last 14 months. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #55

Good for you for losing the weight. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #56

At 190 I have no belly. I have not been 160 since I was 16. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #57

Sounds like you are paying careful attention to your body. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #59

Unfortunately my body likes beer and bourbon. I've cut out the bourbon. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #62

Why is every other year preferable to annually? n/t moonscape Jun 2021 #39

Apparently there's a peak in immunity given by a vaccine. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #43

Interesting. Since each year the vaccine is for a moonscape Jun 2021 #44

I and you need to do a bit more research. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #51

We're peers. I was never a germaphobe and just moonscape Jun 2021 #60

I am absolutely not a germaphobe. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #63

I suspect we will be getting boosters - Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #18

Several things to keep in mind. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #20

That's very interesting. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #28

Yes. Overprotecting kids has a downside. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #40

Yes, exactly! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #48

Intersting. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #54

I am so sorry to hear about your son, Poindexter. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #64

Thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #65

Thank you for sharing that with me. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #69

You are correct. 3rd world folks have very few allergies. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #47

It's interesting, isn't it? smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #49

The worst thing you can do for your kid is keep them too clean every second GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #53

I worry about you. Even though they are expensive, you should have those EpiPens just smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #58

I don't think the risk is that high. GulfCoast66 Jun 2021 #61

I know, but it's just the of the idea of the thing. smirkymonkey Jun 2021 #68

The worst thing you can do for your kid is keep them too clean every second. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #66

Globally, COVID-19 has killed 3.6 million people which is probably below the rate of death from... Yavin4 Jun 2021 #33

50-80 million out of 1.5 billion was a noticeable decrease. roamer65 Jun 2021 #34

And it promptly increased the next year. PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2021 #41

No flames from me. argyl Jun 2021 #67

Woke up this morning and read all of the replies. RegularJam Jun 2021 #70