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LetMyPeopleVote

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250. You are again lying about the autopsy
Sat Jun 26, 2021, 11:18 PM
Jun 2021

On another thread you demanded exit polling and I posted some strong exit polling that you misquoted and made materially false statements about. Your statements were so false that they were amusing.

Here you have repeatedly claim that the DNC autopsy supported your sad and poorly informed defense of the moronic "defund the police" slogan. Your claims are again so false that they are funny. You should consider reading the material that you post. Here is what the autopsy actually states https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/democrats-ding-own-party-failing-persuade-minorities-explain-party-s-n1269874

The report found that Republican attempts to tie moderate Democrats to the left's most extreme and unpopular elements, such as calls to defund the police, worked. The problem was partly their own making because Democrats failed to explain where they actually stood on police funding and many other issues, other than opposing former President Donald Trump.....

Up until the eve of the election last year, Democrats expected to expand their House majority, but instead lost nearly all of the most competitive congressional races in the country and held on to control of the chamber by razor-thin margins. Democrats took control of the Senate, thanks to two January run off elections in Georgia.

Democrats failed to gain any new governorships or flip a single state legislative chamber, the impacts of which will be felt for a decade as states take up redistricting this year.....

In the weeks following the November election, a long-simmering feud spilled into the public when moderate Democrats blamed progressive for the party’s disappointments, while progressives shot back by saying they were being scapegoated for others' losses. Third Way, one of the reports’ sponsors, is firmly in the moderate camp.

The report argues the "defund the police" attacks were toxic because Republicans was able convince some voters that Democrats cared more about kowtowing to a narrow band of activists or going after Trump than helping average voters solve kitchen-table issues.

Again, I saw commercials being runned against candidates who are friends where the GOP PAC showed a video of a member of the Squad making the claim "defunding the police" was official policy and these ads were very effective.

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The success of Adams for NYC mayor would argue otherwise. Just sayin hlthe2b Jun 2021 #1
But, for the most part, Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #3
This StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #22
++++ KPN Jun 2021 #70
Exactly, a complete double standard we're held to nt TheAnnoyedAgnostic Jun 2021 #71
I think the difference is that republican voters will vote for republicans regardless... George II Jun 2021 #184
Real Democrats vote with their brains StarfishSaver Jun 2021 #185
yep uponit7771 Jun 2021 #190
Do you tire Of being wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #251
It was some (few but prominent) Democrats who created the slogan and then defended it..... George II Jun 2021 #178
Are you saying the activist aren't Democrats? fescuerescue Jun 2021 #222
Certainly weren't Republicans Elessar Zappa Jun 2021 #227
That seems like distinction without a difference fescuerescue Jun 2021 #232
I respect Obama and Clyburn but facts matter. This is the 2nd 2020 report basically saying ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #6
"a good message beats a lying cudgel any day" SharonClark Jun 2021 #56
+1, it does work VERY VERY well and we need to respond to them faster. In the 2nd report on uponit7771 Jun 2021 #57
Again, please consider working in a real campaign in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #138
You are again lying about the autopsy LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #250
So will you condemn Nina and this Mike idiot for their disrespect of Rep. Clyburn? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #252
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #258
You are correct and it is clear that in real campaigns, this slogan does not work LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #137
This JustAnotherGen Jun 2021 #161
so, the lack of the Dem brand NewJeffCT Jun 2021 #180
Oh, please Jeff. We've "known each other for years" Don't put words in my or anyone elses' mouth hlthe2b Jun 2021 #187
What Eric Adams Shares With Joe Biden LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #245
Defund the Police is a bad slogan. gab13by13 Jun 2021 #2
Its the perfect slogan for the sentiment the DNC needs better branding and GQP can't use ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #7
What does that even mean? Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #49
In political context its what you stand for and how you want to be viewed. In 2008 down ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #54
That's still a pile of jello. Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #111
Yes, in 2008 we had one in 2016 and 20 we didn't and the guy at the top of the ticket in 2020 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #114
I think he DID have a slogan. And it won. Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #117
Fewer than 1 in 5 support 'defund the police' movement, USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #234
Do you tire of being wrong? Here is real exit polling that proves that you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #139
Agreed, I'm not sure why some are so in love with it. [nt] Nexus2 Jun 2021 #15
+1, enough to blame down ballot losses on it vs the facts that say the opposite. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #46
Why do you continue to insult and defame real democrats who had the courage to run for office? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #140
Why are you misrepresenting the facts? Neither the autopsy nor the exit polling back your lies LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #253
Yep!!! Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #42
reform has failed over and over. that's why. mopinko Jun 2021 #44
I can 100% guarantee that Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #52
Well defunding the police will fail also and get Demsrule86 Jun 2021 #218
Especially with violent crime exploding around the country. Ace Rothstein Jun 2021 #50
Yep. Demilitarize the police is better. ancianita Jun 2021 #65
+1, if we would've had ... ANY SLOGAN ... in 2020 it would've worked but we didn't have uponit7771 Jun 2021 #109
Now THEY'VE got DEFUND THE MILITARY per FOX. We need to run against that! ancianita Jun 2021 #128
It's an excellent slogan. Republicans used it heavily, to their great advantage. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #66
THANK YOU !!! I'm going crazy here thinking this isn't getting through. I'll update my OP with this uponit7771 Jun 2021 #91
No problem! lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #93
Thank you. Treefrog Jun 2021 #123
Even Demilitarize the police is better. NT cinematicdiversions Jun 2021 #179
I think it could be a mixture of both vercetti2021 Jun 2021 #4
Its not both, this is the second report out saying dems didn't message or brand themselves uponit7771 Jun 2021 #9
Too Convenient ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #88
It became part of dem brand due to wrong response not because DTP was effective. Page 30 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #90
Your Making My Point ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #96
Got it, "The lack of proper marketing let the other side slap a bunker sticker on our cars." uponit7771 Jun 2021 #98
I Think We've Come To Like Minds ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #102
RIGHT !!! I'm thinking the defanging them it to attack them on the economy and how horrible uponit7771 Jun 2021 #107
That's A Start ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #122
Can Democrats avoid the pitfalls of 2020? A new analysis offers striking answers. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #141
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #247
It was a different kind of election. RegularJam Jun 2021 #5
There's no proof it didn't help us, matter of fact some dem candidates in the report said they uponit7771 Jun 2021 #19
There is "proof" and this sentence contradicts what you are saying. RegularJam Jun 2021 #30
Disagree, my last sentence is plain; we didn't turn out vote GQP did. That's not a fault of uponit7771 Jun 2021 #37
I'm now fully aware that you get it. RegularJam Jun 2021 #39
What "real and positive change" has it achieved? brooklynite Jun 2021 #67
One thing it has done is resonated with many KPN Jun 2021 #75
It sad but you clearly did not read the autopsy LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #248
Your title is unsupported by your quoted selections or provided link FBaggins Jun 2021 #8
Dem branding in both reports is stated as the prevalent issue. Without the branding DTP was able uponit7771 Jun 2021 #12
They're the same thing... not either/or FBaggins Jun 2021 #25
Nothing in either report supports the "hindering" conclusion with polling. Bottom line we didn't uponit7771 Jun 2021 #32
Both reports support exactly that conclusion FBaggins Jun 2021 #41
"There is no "defining FIRST" ... " Yes there is, you think someone can now define Ronald ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #45
You've discovered a time machine? FBaggins Jun 2021 #48
No, I have Anchoring Bias theories from pathologist (link) uponit7771 Jun 2021 #58
You're missing that the branding for the next election is already well under way FBaggins Jun 2021 #64
We agree its under way and our current response is HORRIBLE on its face. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #92
House passes George Floyd Act as Democrats avoid 'defund the police' clash LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #254
Agreed. Faulty logic. TraceNC Jun 2021 #13
Facts matter, false cudgels don't work were there's strong branding and good messaging. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #17
You're arguing that we had a messaging and branding TraceNC Jun 2021 #21
No I'm not arguing that, the reports are. The plainly say dems had weak branding and a message... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #24
Then what argument are you making TraceNC Jun 2021 #26
I think the reports speak for themselves, they're pretty clear. We didn't have a brand or a message uponit7771 Jun 2021 #28
The reports are right but our most TraceNC Jun 2021 #31
The second report addresses this very fact that Biden had a strong brand already so ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #33
You do know that the right-wingers TraceNC Jun 2021 #35
And that's it, we need to respond Bettie Jun 2021 #40
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #43
Of course. TraceNC Jun 2021 #82
Well then, what is your plan to Bettie Jun 2021 #83
I wouldn't regulate the speech of ANY protestor. TraceNC Jun 2021 #84
The slogan didn't come from anyone running for office Bettie Jun 2021 #87
Which is why I suggested that TraceNC Jun 2021 #89
Correct, the problem is in 2020 for down ballot candidates there was no message shaped ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #95
RIGHT !!! We can have quick hard response and attack lines not sit back and let "Biden Hates uponit7771 Jun 2021 #94
Obama didn't blame the election results on KPN Jun 2021 #77
The OP doesn't have a problem with the TraceNC Jun 2021 #81
It's not our slogan. We can't control activists anymore than we can cointrol rightwing nut jobs. KPN Jun 2021 #85
I haven't seen anyone arguing for TraceNC Jun 2021 #86
The idea on improving branding and messaging is to have one, in 2020 we didn't and voters uponit7771 Jun 2021 #97
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #143
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #142
It's very strange. TraceNC Jun 2021 #195
The article cited by the OP does not support the claims made by the OP LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #197
Yep. Another unexplained aspect of TraceNC Jun 2021 #219
We have to be more than the party that loves everybody. everyonematters Jun 2021 #10
+1, ... while contrasting the GQP record. I don't mind stating GQP is bad but we need to state... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #16
Why 'Defund The Police' Attacks Were So Potent Against Democrats LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #144
From your own post "Skopov nonetheless endured relentless claims that she supported "defunding" ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #165
Read the material again or have someone read the material and explain it to you LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #198
Not a good idea to give the opposition TraceNC Jun 2021 #11
Disagree, cudgels don't work if branding is strong and message is prevalent. There are multiple uponit7771 Jun 2021 #14
Strong branding and messaging TraceNC Jun 2021 #18
Dems didn't come up with DTP that's GQP branding that affects that conclusion and ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #20
Doesn't matter who came up with it. TraceNC Jun 2021 #23
"When we didn't run away from it," then we agree in part ... our RESPONSE to this cudgel ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #27
Agreed on the last sentence. TraceNC Jun 2021 #29
WE AGREE !! Or even owning it or parts of it like the AZ candidate did here recently and like ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #34
Our candidates *did* respond. TraceNC Jun 2021 #38
STRONG BRAND AND MESSEGING!!! Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #69
I don't, I used to work for 1 of the big search sites so I know how to heat map and what words uponit7771 Jun 2021 #99
Okay, that helps a bit, I guess.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #115
Did you work as an engineer or doctor or in a more left brained job? tia uponit7771 Jun 2021 #118
LOL yes. Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #119
LOL !! Same but integration architect, I'm married to a marketing guru so after 20 years I somewhat uponit7771 Jun 2021 #120
Cheers! NT Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #134
Once again you make it very clear that you have never worked on a campaign in the real world LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #145
Democrats have begun advocating more police funding. LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #256
This was interesting... SharonClark Jun 2021 #36
This is why DTP needed a response and not be ignored by 1 too many down ballot candidates in uponit7771 Jun 2021 #47
Again, you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #146
The "problem" with Dem messaging is that we're up against right-wing talk radio, Fox lies, and SharonClark Jun 2021 #51
+1, their infrastructure is 100% more effective than what we have but we still have outlets ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #60
Whenever I hear someone say something about "brand" Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #53
You're fact biased, I don't think most humans are initially. Do you remember the poster for down ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #62
All I am saying is.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #68
There are plenty of concrete ideas of how to do it and, just follow the GQP path for the last uponit7771 Jun 2021 #100
Ya mean like "defund the police?" Happy Hoosier Jun 2021 #112
Attacking good Democratic candidates who lost due to this slogan is offensive and wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #147
Defund the police coupled with the continued rioting in Portland and the lack of response... kentuck Jun 2021 #55
Boom! SharonClark Jun 2021 #59
both reports basically say it was dem LACK of response to "we'll take away police" vs the efficacy uponit7771 Jun 2021 #61
That is not true LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #255
This! Treefrog Jun 2021 #125
👀 underpants Jun 2021 #63
Bullshit, the slogan is a gift to the GOP themaguffin Jun 2021 #72
The 3 polls say different, it wasn't the efficacy of the slogan it was the lack of Dem response uponit7771 Jun 2021 #101
In politics, if you're explaining, you're losing. themaguffin Jun 2021 #113
Excellent point! Treefrog Jun 2021 #124
The moronic defund the police slogan lost yet again LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #263
"Defund the Police" was used by Republican Candidates MineralMan Jun 2021 #73
practically perfect! orleans Jun 2021 #80
+1, the 1 bend the 2 reports recognize was turn out of GQP not a true game changer for ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #103
Tomato- tomahto sarisataka Jun 2021 #74
Democrats ... WERE ... able to counter DTP attacks but didn't. Page 30 of 2nd report ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #104
Lulz. NurseJackie Jun 2021 #76
Really ?! 2 different reports saying basically the same thing is a sleeper? uponit7771 Jun 2021 #110
Biden is likely the only reason we won the White House... Drunken Irishman Jun 2021 #78
+1, "But because Biden already had a built up image as a moderate, he could do just that." uponit7771 Jun 2021 #105
Exactly.. Pres Biden came out & said "NO".. Cha Jun 2021 #106
Bullshit BGBD Jun 2021 #79
The 2 reports basically have dems not bringing out there base due to lack of branding and .... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #108
Please look over that post and perhaps correct some things and rephrase. Treefrog Jun 2021 #126
Fixed, "From the 2 reports it was lack of branding / messaging was the game changer not DTP" uponit7771 Jun 2021 #127
You are misquoting these studies and you are wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #149
Exactly themaguffin Jun 2021 #116
They already did, Google ... "Biden Hates Beef". They're going to run with it or CRT ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #121
You don't get it. "Biden hates beef" doesn't work outside of the cult, as for CRT themaguffin Jun 2021 #130
We agree it doesn't work outside his cult and neither did defund the police as the reports say uponit7771 Jun 2021 #131
Defund the police worked great outside of the cult. That is why it was a problem. cinematicdiversions Jun 2021 #183
There's no data indicating DTP was a game changer on getting out dem votes, it wasn't. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #188
+1 betsuni Jun 2021 #150
DTP hurt the party's brand, because DTP is a classic wedge issue. gulliver Jun 2021 #129
Two reports are saying it wasn't DTP that hurt dems but lack of branding and messaging. Dems uponit7771 Jun 2021 #132
New Post-Election Poll Reveals How Democrats' Leftward Movement Cost the Party in the 2020 Election LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #148
"... most voters did not see a clear Democratic agenda..." Or brand uponit7771 Jun 2021 #159
How did they not see a clear Democratic agenda or brand? betsuni Jun 2021 #166
Easy, in 08 dems had a poster with a word that even REPUBLICANS tried to ascribe to late in the uponit7771 Jun 2021 #168
A poster wasn't the reason the Democrat won. betsuni Jun 2021 #170
I agree, the poster was great branding and association and to this day is part of pop culture ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #173
Defund the police is a truly stupid slogan LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #260
It all boils down to certain groups with their own outlook and agendas Pompoy Jun 2021 #133
We need messaging for these groups too IMHO, we can't homogenize our messaging so much uponit7771 Jun 2021 #176
Totally agree. How can we possibly have a better messaging Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2021 #135
+1, DCCC leadership has changed to Maloney, he has the data staring him in the face... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #162
I was really optimistic when I heard Bloomberg Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2021 #228
+1, we need it !!! The thing about blaming DTP for down ballot losses is its lets dem bad messaging uponit7771 Jun 2021 #235
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #136
Two different reports on Democrats vagueness and your own poll ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #164
Republicans are the vague ones. betsuni Jun 2021 #167
True, I think it was the 2nd report that outlines dem messaging is too left brain (logical etc) vs.. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #169
The OP is very invested in this moronic slogan LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #151
I agree. betsuni Jun 2021 #153
Post removed Post removed Jun 2021 #154
Yes, the myth that the majority of Americans are just like them but don't know it yet. betsuni Jun 2021 #155
...and there are too many people vested in lazy thinking of allowing GQP to define us with lies uponit7771 Jun 2021 #157
Obama: You lose people with 'snappy' slogans like 'defund the police' LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #203
Ignore even your own data but accept anecdotes ?! REALLY ?! Come on man, we're uponit7771 Jun 2021 #205
Why is this ignorant slogan so important to you-you are wrong in your claims LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #209
Its not, reality is important the reality is DTP wasn't a game changer as much as vagueness uponit7771 Jun 2021 #211
Why are you attacking real Democrats who ran and lost due to this slogan? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #213
Link and quote a candidate that ran on DTP and lost, I'll wait ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #215
Do you ever tire of being wrong? I am amused at how you are never right on any issue LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #241
What Eric Adams Shares With Joe Biden LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #243
Good post. What's really odd is that this TraceNC Jun 2021 #171
+1 betsuni Jun 2021 #172
Multiple polling and reports are saying "nope, that wasn't the problem" and the reaction uponit7771 Jun 2021 #174
We've been through this multiple times TraceNC Jun 2021 #175
+1 betsuni Jun 2021 #177
"...So why help them by continuing to use this stupid slogan?..." Come on ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #186
You're not invested in this slogan TraceNC Jun 2021 #194
The celebratory cheer is the confirming report that we were too vague down ballot. I'm MORE vested uponit7771 Jun 2021 #196
No these polling reports do not support your claims LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #204
Your data is outdated, you've been told this before why continue to push invalid data? tia uponit7771 Jun 2021 #206
The reporrt, in fact, confirms that the slogan hurt Democrats. lapucelle Jul 2021 #270
I don't think Democratic messaging and branding and slogans matter that much. betsuni Jun 2021 #152
Hope and change was vague to politicos but was golden for non political people. Messaging and Brandi uponit7771 Jun 2021 #158
Build back better. Same as always with Democrats, together. Stronger together. FDR. betsuni Jun 2021 #163
+1 treestar Jun 2021 #182
Defund the Police was part of the inadequate brand. n/t pnwmom Jun 2021 #156
DTP came from protesters we can't control, we can control our own brandy though... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #160
No, we can try but we can't really control it. We thought we controlled branding pnwmom Jun 2021 #199
Correct, dem branding and messaging needs to be better. That's the long and short of the article uponit7771 Jun 2021 #210
Hillary's slogan was "Stronger together." How is that less "vague" than Make America Great Again"?nt pnwmom Jun 2021 #216
2020 2nd report delineate the top of the ticket from the down ballots so I'm thinking top of the ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #221
Why are you making statements that are false? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #200
WOW !! Now you're pushing bullshit from Foxnews ?!!? They're they ones claiming the squad uponit7771 Jun 2021 #217
The faithful will argue to the death that defund the police is what hurt the party. I agree Autumn Jun 2021 #181
+1, I don't know why they'll argue that in the face of the data though. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #189
Data is easy to ignore if it goes against ones narrative. Autumn Jun 2021 #192
The article cited in the OP does NOT support the claims made by the OP LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #201
The quotes in the OP are from the article, your arguments so weak you gotta make stuff up now? uponit7771 Jun 2021 #208
It is sad that you do NOT understand the material posted LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #212
Blame DTP as the gating factor vs "vague" messaging all you want if that makes you feel better. uponit7771 Jun 2021 #214
Read the polling data or have some read the data and explain it to you LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #224
You're pushing fox news bullshit, that's what I read. You claim the squad pushed DTP hevily and uponit7771 Jun 2021 #226
Again you are always wrong LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #229
"The squad pushed the Defund the Police slogan heavily .." That's from your *OWN POST* and its right uponit7771 Jun 2021 #233
Do you even tire of being wrong-I saw the ads used in my district LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #236
GOP Launches Ads Highlighting 'Defund The Police' To Target Vulnerable 2022 Dems LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #238
Now that's amusing. Since I can read I will 100% disgree with you. Autumn Jun 2021 #240
None of the data support your silly claims LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #244
Defund the police is a truly stupid slogan LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #261
The right-wing echo chamber takes a word, phrase or concept and Politicub Jun 2021 #191
+1, the 2nd report suggest dems not be so left brained in the messaging but more associative uponit7771 Jun 2021 #193
Again you have not made true statements about the data LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #202
Please link and quote "false data" otherwise you're lying. You've done this trolling shit ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #207
You calling someone a liar amuses me LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #225
I would say that the motto "DEFUND THE POLICE" fescuerescue Jun 2021 #220
Correct, I see its a branding that couldn't happen if we defined ourselves first with branding that uponit7771 Jun 2021 #223
It is a brand that voters in the real world have rejected LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #230
Oh I agree fescuerescue Jun 2021 #231
Democrats didn't brand themselves adequately and most polled said dem message was "vague" ... uponit7771 Jun 2021 #237
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #242
The GOP has the benefit of a small segment of the party providing great ad material for the GOP LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #249
The GOP is already running ads using "defund the police" against vulnerable 2022 Democrat candidates LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #239
Defund the Police is a great way to help the GOP win races they should not win LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #246
The continuing GOP fiction that President Biden supports defunding police LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #257
Defund the police is a very stupid slogan LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #259
Rejecting defund the police helped Joe win LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #262
Hogwash. Biden's message got him 7 million more votes. pnwmom Jul 2021 #264
"...Biden's message..." Did not establish down ballots candidates. We can ignore the data and repeat uponit7771 Jul 2021 #265
The problem isn't messaging, it's gerrymandering. pnwmom Jul 2021 #266
Gerrymandering didn't play into senate races and races where we flipped districts in 18 uponit7771 Jul 2021 #267
The Senate itself is built to favor the low population, mostly white rural states. pnwmom Jul 2021 #268
We'll see how well they do without Putin's whore at the top of the ticket uponit7771 Jul 2021 #269
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