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10. April 2020 Fire Report: How & Why Do Lithium-Ion Batteries Fail

Sun Jun 27, 2021, 10:05 AM

Jun 2021

April 2020 will go down as one of the longest months on record. I think we all can agree that this April dragged out for obvious reasons.

We experienced 25 reported fire incidents at waste and recycling facilities during the month. We experienced an unusual phenomenon that we have not seen in the past – specifically that the first week of April had only one reported fire incident. The final remaining 24 incidents occurred in the final 21 days of the month. This was more than one reported fire incident per day.

The main cause of these fires is lithium-ion batteries, which we delve into deeply with my special guest this month, Ronald Butler.

https://www.waste360.com/safety/april-2020-fire-report-how-why-do-lithium-ion-batteries-fail-insight-jedi-master-lithium

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Electric vehicle batteries in parking garages that are flattened would burn. [View all] 5X Jun 2021 OP

As opposed to vehicles with 20 gallons of gas underneath them? Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #1

Gas tanks don't spontaneously combust when crushed or punctured like lithium ion batteries Klaralven Jun 2021 #3

Please. marble falls Jun 2021 #6

April 2020 Fire Report: How & Why Do Lithium-Ion Batteries Fail Klaralven Jun 2021 #10

Horses and buggies don't burn or explode in any scenario. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2021 #7

Replace 240 million light vehicles with horses? Horse emissions would be an environmental nightmare. Klaralven Jun 2021 #17

The wheel: the source of all our problems. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #20

Uhhh yes they do. If there is any spark near them they do. CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #40

That's not spontaneous. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #43

What isn't spontaneous? CrackityJones75 Jun 2021 #47

You do know gasoline burns too?? Nt USALiberal Jun 2021 #2

Lithium and moisture virtually explodes 5X Jun 2021 #5

How do these cars do in a driving rainstorm then? Treefrog Jun 2021 #9

With the batteries not damaged, the lack or presence of rain doesn't matter. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #12

So what if you're in a crash in a rainstorm? Treefrog Jun 2021 #30

If the batteries are damaged, then there can be trouble. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #41

Not well when crushed under 16 floors of concrete condo Klaralven Jun 2021 #13

Not Accurate ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #45

I am wrong about the moisture and ev batteries but, 5X Jun 2021 #61

Everytime it rains, or even splashes a puddle, an enviromentalist gets his wings. marble falls Jun 2021 #4

Gasser jcboss Jun 2021 #8

I wonder how many UL, ANSI, ISO, ASME, API, ASTM, and NFPA consensus standards there are mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #14

Exactly right. When was the last time a tanker blew up a service station? I watch from my deck ... marble falls Jun 2021 #15

Do they still have that chain that drags along the pavement below the tank? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #19

I'll have to get my field glasses out! What I like the best about the tankers are they have ... marble falls Jun 2021 #22

There's a vehicle that's begging to be turned into a low rider. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #23

I kinda like the image of that big red oval jumping up and down. marble falls Jun 2021 #25

I spoke too soon. Okay, the tanker doesn't have hyrdraulics, but it is pretty tricked out. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #28

These guys teach master classes ... marble falls Jun 2021 #33

This is what I had in mind, except with a tank truck. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #35

But the trailers gotta hop, too! marble falls Jun 2021 #42

That's what I mean: the tank part. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #44

Not Likely ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #46

Gasoline is the most dangerous substance to the public and isnt controlled. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #24

It's Available ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #48

You're probably right. I should think about it some more. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #49

My Specialty, Educationally... ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #52

Yearly about 3700 deaths by fire, 3400 by drowning. Klaralven Jun 2021 #51

I Was Talking About More Than Fire ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #55

so... we should stick with ICE engines then? Takket Jun 2021 #11

Florida parking garage collapse kills 2; 1 still missing Klaralven Jun 2021 #16

Building inspection in Florida may go under a MSM microscope. nt oasis Jun 2021 #31

So there's one, nine years ago ..... dumbcat Jun 2021 #37

Electric/Hybrid Vehicle Safety Training for Emergency Responders mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2021 #18

No where have I said anything about getting rid of electric vehicles 5X Jun 2021 #21

It is certainly one possibility among many. tinrobot Jun 2021 #34

Rising sea levels from burning gasoline helped rot out the building's foundation NickB79 Jun 2021 #26

Lets ignore physics at our own peril. 5X Jun 2021 #27

Or we can ignore cost/benefit analysis NickB79 Jun 2021 #29

The fact that the building collapsed is the bigger problem here. tinrobot Jun 2021 #32

EVs are as safe or safer than ICEs Johnny2X2X Jun 2021 #36

Did I say otherwise? 5X Jun 2021 #38

Nice Dodge. Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #50

I don't have to fucking dodge anything. 5X Jun 2021 #54

Please, you implied the hell out of it obamanut2012 Jun 2021 #58

Tell me where. 5X Jun 2021 #59

Transparent nonsense is transparent. Voltaire2 Jun 2021 #60

And you know there were EVs in the garage relayerbob Jun 2021 #39

Good then to have excellent and stringent building codes. David__77 Jun 2021 #53

Ummm... wouldn't the complete collapse of the garage already have ruined one's day? kysrsoze Jun 2021 #56

Reading is fundamental. 5X Jun 2021 #57