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appalachiablue

(44,020 posts) Mon Jun 28, 2021, 09:17 AM Jun 2021

Vaccinated People Are Dying From Delta Variant, But In Small Nos., Almost All Are Over 50: UK Data [View all]

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Vaccinated People Are Dying From Delta Variant, But In Small Nos., Almost All Are Over 50: UK Data [View all] appalachiablue Jun 2021 OP

Well the delta variant is just starting to show up. Deaths lag. mucifer Jun 2021 #1

EXTREMELY small numbers of already small numbers. Hortensis Jun 2021 #51

2-3 weeks ago, the Delta variant was already dominant in the new cases muriel_volestrangler Jun 2021 #55

Statistics also reflect use of Astra Zeneca, which is not used in the US Klaralven Jun 2021 #2

Less sensational headline: Over 99.9+% of vaccinated people safe from Delta variant. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #3

By my calculation last week, over 99.99% are safe from death, with Pfizer/Moderna. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #5

Well, out of 117 deaths, 50 were fully vaccinated. LisaL Jun 2021 #7

In the USA, out of 150 million vaccinated, there have been a few hundred deaths. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #9

I am not trying to get anyone from getting vaccinated. LisaL Jun 2021 #12

50 fully vaccinated people died, out of 32.5 million fully vaccinated in UK Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #30

Using your logic, 67 people died from delta covid out of LisaL Jun 2021 #31

That is a true statement, which could change over time. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #36

The reason for that is most covid deaths are in the age group 65 and over. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #47

I'm sure many more than that Mr.Bill Jun 2021 #59

Based on UK data, it is 99.99999% safety for fully vaccinated people Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #32

Strange that some DUers are twisting this into bad news. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #34

Problem is - some who are vaxed believe they can no longer catch the virus womanofthehills Jun 2021 #77

And the average age of those 50 deaths is probably 75 and over Yavin4 Jun 2021 #48

+1, even if ALL forms of CV19 was added in seems more likely to win the lottery than to catch uponit7771 Jun 2021 #62

Or not sensational enough. LisaL Jun 2021 #8

Why are you pushing the Trumpist anti-vaxxer agenda? lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #11

I think insisting that vaccinated people are completely safe and can go about their business LisaL Jun 2021 #13

I agree Sunsky Jun 2021 #45

She's right - if this variant kills vaxed and non vaxed alike Blues Heron Jun 2021 #16

Vaccinated people should still be cautious (I am). But it's misleading to imply it's no good... lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #19

I am discussing the numbers coming out of UK. LisaL Jun 2021 #20

You are omitting the vastly more relevant fact that almost all recipients are protected. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #21

I am discussing the numbers in the article. LisaL Jun 2021 #22

Bye. lagomorph777 Jun 2021 #24

You're missing the point about the numbers. Yavin4 Jun 2021 #49

+1, "Finally, we're never going to have a zero covid world" People are attempting to conflate vaxed uponit7771 Jun 2021 #65

Deaths are fifty percent vaxed Blues Heron Jun 2021 #26

It's not killing 50% of vaxed, only 0.000001% Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #35

read it again - of the deaths it does cause - 50 percent are fully vaxed Blues Heron Jun 2021 #38

That statistic is completely meaningless unless examined in a larger context Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #42

sure - but somehow it managed to kill as many vaxed as nonvaxed Blues Heron Jun 2021 #43

Without additional data and context, a red flag for vaxxed people is unwarranted. Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #46

WHO said we should keep masking - vaxed or not Blues Heron Jun 2021 #69

Im not talking about masks - I'm onboard with masking Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #70

I'll go with the experts on this one Blues Heron Jun 2021 #71

I follow the experts as well (married to one, a retired CLS), and no one's hair is on fire yet Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #73

You dismiss the Delta variant at your peril Blues Heron Jun 2021 #74

Like the OP, you are thinking in black and white extremes Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #75

OK Be safe Blues Heron Jun 2021 #76

Variant will kill vaxed at lottery winning chances than non vaxed, PCR is not similar or same uponit7771 Jun 2021 #64

right, it's more if you DO get it your vax gives the same chances as nonvaxed Blues Heron Jun 2021 #68

Except that is blatantly false. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #23

Nope. The number of breakthrough infections resulting in death is infinitesimally small Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #29

Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Jun 2021 #33

Again. You are conflating "safe" with "not dead." Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #37

And what this OP headline ignores is that same measure of vaccine effectiveness Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #39

No. That headline is ALSO misleading Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #57

+1 BannonsLiver Jun 2021 #41

THANK YOU!!!! So sick of the COVID fear porn on DU! beaglelover Jun 2021 #58

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2021 #60

Sounds just like what they said when COVID started out. Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #4

Yeah, sometimes it is the things that remain unsaid and understood which are the key... Hugin Jun 2021 #6

Except at the beginning of COVID, NOBODY was vaccinated. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #40

So it's OK not to just dump vaccinated granny on an ice flow Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #52

To quote our current president- Look, here's the deal: Fiendish Thingy Jun 2021 #54

My comment pertained to the OP - which certainly did imply that Ms. Toad Jun 2021 #56

"Almost all are over 50" zanana1 Jun 2021 #10

From this data, it appears that older and sickly ones are still at risk after vaccination. LisaL Jun 2021 #14

Check that, and "over 50..very elderly" appalachiablue Jun 2021 #17

K&R! SheltieLover Jun 2021 #15

Although Pfizer and Moderna afford stronger protection... ananda Jun 2021 #18

We are being told that in the US, vast majority of people who died were un-vaccinated. LisaL Jun 2021 #25

Differing Vaccine Regimes Matter ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #27

One can hope we should be better off due to mRNA vaccines here. LisaL Jun 2021 #28

As Of June 16, US Was At 10% Of Cases ProfessorGAC Jun 2021 #50

I am fully vaccinated but will be wearing a mask LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2021 #44

What were their underlying health conditions? LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #53

all over 50 looks like uponit7771 Jun 2021 #61

That by itself doesn't identify it. LiberalFighter Jun 2021 #72

Looks like I got *CLOSER* chances of hitting lottery than getting CV19 of any variant after vax uponit7771 Jun 2021 #63

I was booked for a trip to UK in Sept mainer Jun 2021 #66

Wait a while, spare the stress. Enjoy appalachiablue Jun 2021 #67