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43. I'm afraid that's far too optomistic

Thu Jul 1, 2021, 02:11 PM

Jul 2021

At least you recognize that their disparate impact argumentation just got thrown out. But proving intentional discrimination is far harder than proving a disparate impact. The closest allegation that I've seen is that legislators knew there would be a discriminatory impact when they passed the law and that was evidence of their intent. That isn't going to fly now.

Plus... they just buffed the state interest argument substantially. My understanding was that Arizona wasn't able to demonstrate any related fraud... yet the ruling calls that a "strong and entirely legitimate state interest".

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Voting rights act.......Supreme Court.......what does this mean? [View all] a kennedy Jul 2021 OP

It means we're fucked. hedda_foil Jul 2021 #1

I kinda thought so........just wanted confirmation...... a kennedy Jul 2021 #4

My thoughts exactly! diehardblue Jul 2021 #5

no it doesn't agingdem Jul 2021 #6

Not really. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #15

No, we're not StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #28

That "we the people" lost. nt PunkinPi Jul 2021 #2

It means the Roberts Court edhopper Jul 2021 #3

Sorry, but I don't see how this is devastating. First, how hard is it to get to the right precinct? Hoyt Jul 2021 #7

It's devastating if it blocks all of the voting rights lawsuits now pending FBaggins Jul 2021 #10

They ruled on two relatively inconsequential matters. Georgia's law is not nearly as bad Hoyt Jul 2021 #11

I'm sorry... they are in no sense inconsequential FBaggins Jul 2021 #12

OK, let's just tell everyone to give up because they can't vote at the wrong precinct or Hoyt Jul 2021 #14

Again - you're focusing on the specific AZ laws in question FBaggins Jul 2021 #16

Don't think Court's decision precludes other challenges. Not going to scream "the sky is falling." Hoyt Jul 2021 #17

Again - Try reading the dissent FBaggins Jul 2021 #24

The problem is that the majority opinion said Bettie Jul 2021 #23

Could you point me to where the majority opinion says that? Hoyt Jul 2021 #25

In urban areas, precinct locations often change without notice, and at random. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #18

GOPers aren't elderly or disabled? You probably have a point about Native Americans, but I Hoyt Jul 2021 #20

Well said Zeitghost Jul 2021 #27

What's it going to take for you to think a voter suppression measure you think is a problem? StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #29

Oh, a voter ID requirement that can't be met by minorities. What's it going to take for you to Hoyt Jul 2021 #33

What makes you think I have "given up and encourage others to do so"? StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #35

Didn't say there is nothing racist about anything GOPers pass. I do think every Democrat I have Hoyt Jul 2021 #37

Yes, I know StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #39

Well familiar will poll taxes, literacy tests, etc. None Hoyt Jul 2021 #40

I never said it could be handled with "a little education." StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #42

Precincts do move or people move and don't know Deminpenn Jul 2021 #32

Exactly. We can beat these MFers with commonsense and a little education. Hoyt Jul 2021 #34

"...if the Supreme Court rules something like you have have a chip implanted..." - hey, we're good! lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #36

Good point. Maybe we should push for that. Hoyt Jul 2021 #38

Read up on this Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #8

Exactly Polybius Jul 2021 #26

That may be easy for some people. StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #30

Obviously you'd prefer they get struck down, but they're not really influential. bearsfootball516 Jul 2021 #9

Which of the new laws do you think ARE influential? FBaggins Jul 2021 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 2021 #13

It means the DOJ lawsuit against Georgia is going nowhere. Calista241 Jul 2021 #19

No, it doesn't. Not at all StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #31

I'm afraid that's far too optomistic FBaggins Jul 2021 #43

I'm not being optimistic StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #44

I have no challenge there FBaggins Jul 2021 #45

It means that that 'disparate impact' isn't enough Amishman Jul 2021 #21

It give the GOP carte blanche to throw wrenches into the voting process RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2021 #22