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156. It almost sounds like his parents past is being held against him?

Reply to former9thward (Reply #152)

Tue Jul 6, 2021, 05:03 PM

Jul 2021

So even though this was enacted in 2014 the previous DA filed charges?

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San Francisco': video of horde of shoplifters fleeing Neiman Marcus with armfuls of designer bags [View all] Klaralven Jul 2021 OP

FFS, Lock them up! Nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #1

You can't. It's a misdemeanor at most. Fine only if they are found. jimfields33 Jul 2021 #4

Thanks! Wow, that does not seem smart! Nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #17

I know. But things like this always have to go full on crazy jimfields33 Jul 2021 #22

Misdemeanors can carry jail terms but usually only up to one year Sanity Claws Jul 2021 #20

Misdemeanor only above 950.00 jimfields33 Jul 2021 #26

Actually if it's done by a group and obviously pre-planned Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #94

Designer handbags at Neiman Marcus gldstwmn Jul 2021 #122

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #14

Sounds like a bad plan to me. Nt USALiberal Jul 2021 #18

I saw something online about a guy who went on a legit crime spree. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #91

Who are those thousands of people in our jails and prisons? n/t Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #95

"War On Drugs" casualties. Archae Jul 2021 #115

Well Devin Nunez and Dana Rohrabacher are still gldstwmn Jul 2021 #123

Surprised that NM didn't take more adequate measures to prevent this very sort of thing ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #2

It appears Zeitghost Jul 2021 #5

Ha ha, they're going to do something, otherwise, why not put the merchandise out in the open, SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #15

So it's NM's fault? Dream Girl Jul 2021 #27

Well, some business practices need to be revamped, don't you think, otherwise it'll continue SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #31

It's very telling Zeitghost Jul 2021 #41

And its very telling that you know more than anyone else here on DU what should be done, I SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #49

How should a business assess trustworthiness of a potential shopper? Devil Child Jul 2021 #58

Good question, my other half works for Home Depot, and tells me of the things that SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #150

Victim? Oh, please. That feeds into the Corporations are People Politicub Jul 2021 #60

The adapted business model will most likely mean an even greater amazon future Devil Child Jul 2021 #68

In some areas that will be the case. Covid continues to affect consumer Politicub Jul 2021 #99

Good post Politiclub, we are living in very interesting times of flux Devil Child Jul 2021 #145

More blaming of the victims Zeitghost Jul 2021 #88

I don't have the same visceral reaction to the video. And I don't see it Politicub Jul 2021 #105

Every theft has a victim Zeitghost Jul 2021 #121

I would say it's you. Politicub Jul 2021 #124

It's far more convenient to blame the store for not being a fortress. DFW Jul 2021 #84

Apparently so sarisataka Jul 2021 #34

I don't see any need to be so judgmental. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #72

Robin Hood LARPing. N/T Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #97

So what would you do? former9thward Jul 2021 #30

How would I f**king know? I'm not in retail. SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #32

For not knowing anything on the topic Zeitghost Jul 2021 #46

Not really. You are hyperventilating. 10% maybe of the blames rests w/ NM, 90% on the thugs SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #74

From your posts we know that. former9thward Jul 2021 #48

Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having said that. LanternWaste Jul 2021 #153

Please, Disaffected Jul 2021 #67

Yes, pls. go away. I've heard enough from you on other comments you have made on other SWBTATTReg Jul 2021 #73

If I was NM, close the store and focus on more stable markets Amishman Jul 2021 #50

This is the most likely outcome followed inevitably by cries of retail deserts when they shutter Devil Child Jul 2021 #64

Your prophecies are always bemusing LanternWaste Jul 2021 #154

You make me blush Devil Child Jul 2021 #155

You're right...they most likely will do something. Captain Stern Jul 2021 #81

And when that happens many will blame the store and not the criminals ripcord Jul 2021 #157

They did file bankruptcy last year so gldstwmn Jul 2021 #128

They can use display cases that are not glass. Blue_true Jul 2021 #172

I think businesses are afraid of going viral if they try to stop shoplifters jimfields33 Jul 2021 #7

They are using facial recognition gldstwmn Jul 2021 #132

Seems Very Extreme ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #10

One possibility is a entrance lobby with inner and outer doors. Klaralven Jul 2021 #52

Agreed! ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #55

There is also the approach of putting an exploding dye pack in one of the handbags Klaralven Jul 2021 #63

I wonder if there will be move towards representative display only Devil Child Jul 2021 #71

I have the solution! Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #101

And ruining a bag worth tens of thousands of dollars. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #134

At least it can't be fenced Klaralven Jul 2021 #160

Authentication of these bags on the secondary market is a huge problem. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #162

Wouldn't it be more the moral responsibility of the shoplifter? Throck Jul 2021 #11

No consequences superpatriotman Jul 2021 #3

Fear not! It's just CVS making excuses for stores they were going to close anyway... JHB Jul 2021 #6

They'll be along soon, posting the same tired article saying, actually shoplifting is down in SF Dream Girl Jul 2021 #28

You could say the same about the shoplifting posts. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #136

This is clearly not working. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #8

You could say the same about bank robberies, yet they continue gldstwmn Jul 2021 #140

Most bank robbery suspects are caught MichMan Jul 2021 #144

I have no doubt. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #177

I suppose Republicans would want armed store clerks. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #9

One or 2 designer bags would hit that minimum threshold, plus smashed display cases add to it. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #12

I would submit that smashing display cases and grabbing stuff is not mere shoplifting Brother Buzz Jul 2021 #13

You would be correct. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #135

Am I reading that larceny went down this year as opposed to last year, same Jan-June range? TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #16

That doesn't work for the... tonedevil Jul 2021 #23

Shoplifting did not go down, it's just not being reporting because SF police can't/won't respond Dream Girl Jul 2021 #29

There is no reason to report it if it won't be prosecuted. former9thward Jul 2021 #54

Weird, I Can't Get My Insurance Company to Fix My Car... ruet Jul 2021 #92

What makes you certain stores buy shoplifting insurance? MichMan Jul 2021 #119

My reference was not to the specific crime in the OP former9thward Jul 2021 #139

They just raise the prices on everything else making honest people pay more for them MichMan Jul 2021 #142

The article says it was enacted in 2014. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #143

SF elected a new DA who took over in 2020. former9thward Jul 2021 #152

It almost sounds like his parents past is being held against him? gldstwmn Jul 2021 #156

He got elected, so at least some voters did not hold his parents past against him. former9thward Jul 2021 #159

He is the son of two convicted murderers... Mariana Jul 2021 #167

Nope. former9thward Jul 2021 #175

You are the expert. /nt tonedevil Jul 2021 #179

Facts are pesky things. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #141

This is the unfortunate result Zeitghost Jul 2021 #19

And that is wat is happening. Organized crime. Notice how they covered their faces and hands Dream Girl Jul 2021 #37

"They are white, but trying to hide their race, hoping that that people will assume they're black." Devil Child Jul 2021 #138

I guess you have a hard time believing that they're white. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #149

Lock them up Calculating Jul 2021 #21

So fill up the prisons with petty offenses? roamer65 Jul 2021 #40

False comparison Calculating Jul 2021 #42

U didn't address my point of prison overcrowding. roamer65 Jul 2021 #43

LOL tenderfoot Jul 2021 #24

Any word from the Mayor about this? jalan48 Jul 2021 #25

More large city bashing? roamer65 Jul 2021 #33

Criminal gangs. I heard somewhere that they're Eastern European. Dream Girl Jul 2021 #35

Those folks didn't look like any Eastern Europeans I've met. Treefrog Jul 2021 #120

Wat do Eastern Europeans look like? Dream Girl Jul 2021 #133

I don't care where they're from just arrest them. rockfordfile Jul 2021 #165

Might want to re-think that $950 limit San Fran Devil Child Jul 2021 #36

What was the crime/social service debate in the San Francisco 2019 Mayor's election? brooklynite Jul 2021 #38

Trump, the other MAGAs and the GOP have set the tone at the top for lawlessness. joetheman Jul 2021 #39

What we need to realize... TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #44

Remote/automatic door locking capability for say even 5 minutes andym Jul 2021 #45

So you want to lock criminals in the store with staff and innocent shoppers? brooklynite Jul 2021 #47

In a word: Yes andym Jul 2021 #66

"In a word: Yes" Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #108

Yes. It's already done (checkers blocking doors) andym Jul 2021 #110

In most cases stores instruct their employees not to physically engage with a shoplifter. Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #116

Keeping criminals locked in your store Zeitghost Jul 2021 #78

Done all the time andym Jul 2021 #107

It's sweet Zeitghost Jul 2021 #125

This is a Daily Mail (Murdoch owned?) story pushing the GOP narrative for 2022- crime. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #51

So the video is faked? Klaralven Jul 2021 #53

It's not about the video, it's about the narrative the video supports. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #61

Group dashes out of San Francisco Neiman Marcus store after handbag robbery Klaralven Jul 2021 #56

KTVU is a Fox affiliate. Your opening sentence parroted the GOP narrative Fiendish Thingy Jul 2021 #65

Bingo. Kingofalldems Jul 2021 #130

Video shows stream of handbag thieves sprinting out of San Francisco Neiman Marcus Klaralven Jul 2021 #57

Shoplifters flee with several purses from Neiman Marcus in San Francisco: video Klaralven Jul 2021 #59

Guess we're not supposed to believe our lyin' eyes, eh? Treefrog Jul 2021 #77

DUs Propaganda Meter Could Use Some Work. ruet Jul 2021 #79

When it is happening right before you in your own community it tends to elicit a response Devil Child Jul 2021 #80

What Response? ruet Jul 2021 #86

Acknowledging it exists rather than shouting down those who do with cries of "the narrative?" Devil Child Jul 2021 #90

Acknowledge it in the California Sub-Forum. ruet Jul 2021 #102

+1 leftstreet Jul 2021 #103

This doesn't happen in just San Francisco. Organized shoplifting occurs elsewhere too. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #106

And Has Been Going on Forever. ruet Jul 2021 #113

I'm sure the shoplifters asked themselves that every time they entered a store. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #118

We got a crime is out of control narrative to push ibegurpard Jul 2021 #148

We're In Real Trouble! ruet Jul 2021 #151

Apparently they just aren't reporting it... ibegurpard Jul 2021 #158

The DA's family were members of the Weather Underground, gldstwmn Jul 2021 #161

The DA's family were members of the Weather Underground... Mariana Jul 2021 #164

The law needs to be amended to make theft totals cumulative. A lot of this theft is quite organized. diane in sf Jul 2021 #62

We don't arrest shoplifters or burglary in SF MenloParque Jul 2021 #69

There are so many car break-ins in San Francisco that they have their own Twitter account. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #75

These people need help. Rustyeye77 Jul 2021 #126

Where do you park your car? NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #129

It prevents them from stealing more things from innocent hard working people. MichMan Jul 2021 #137

I agree rockfordfile Jul 2021 #166

How do they get help if they are not apprehended? Blue_true Jul 2021 #169

Locking them up prevents them from doing crimes. cinematicdiversions Jul 2021 #178

I thought if nothing was visible in the car they moonscape Jul 2021 #76

Vigilantes will arise soon. alphafemale Jul 2021 #70

That happened where I live. One of them was shot by the police. gldstwmn Jul 2021 #146

I will say that it is hard to see how that wouldn't still be a felony dsc Jul 2021 #82

Goodness SF is a warzone! ibegurpard Jul 2021 #83

Right After They Rebuild From the Annihilation of Portland. ruet Jul 2021 #85

But there's a video ibegurpard Jul 2021 #89

In Earlier Days, This Would Be Relegated... ruet Jul 2021 #98

they drove away in nice cars IcyPeas Jul 2021 #87

The video shows poor socio-economic young men. Rustyeye77 Jul 2021 #93

Yeah, "forced." That's the word I was looking for. Thanks. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2021 #100

That car they drive sure is nice. jimfields33 Jul 2021 #117

The victim is the person they stole from rockfordfile Jul 2021 #168

Bingo. Blue_true Jul 2021 #171

Come on. Blue_true Jul 2021 #170

In Palm Beach we used to have a transvestite smash and grab gang. Ligyron Jul 2021 #96

How did you know they were transvestites? leftstreet Jul 2021 #104

Good question, I think they caught a few eventually Because they did it more than once. Ligyron Jul 2021 #111

Uhhh.... Transvestite is no longer used. Rustyeye77 Jul 2021 #109

Sorry, it was awhile ago. Ligyron Jul 2021 #112

Thank you 😊 Oneironaut Jul 2021 #127

Do you have some kind of problem with San Francisco? Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #114

Yesterday there was a thread about shopping gldstwmn Jul 2021 #176

What an interesting thread. Kingofalldems Jul 2021 #131

Don't mind me, I'm just here until the real fireworks start with a pitbull or circumcision thread Devil Child Jul 2021 #147

Here's some interesting information along with a lot of links: gldstwmn Jul 2021 #163

These are not lone shop lifters, they are organized crime groups Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #173

This all reads like a Nextdoor thread lol... David__77 Jul 2021 #174