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brooklynite

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Sun Jul 11, 2021, 10:01 AM Jul 2021

I'm not a Lawyer, but I can predict the outcome of this case... [View all]

Prosecutors maintain that Pauline Bauer, owner of a Pennsylvania pizza parlor, took part in the Jan 6th insurrection and reportedly told Capitol police "bring Nancy Pelosi out here now… we want to hang that f*cking b*tch."

Weill reports that Bauer is using a sovereign citizen defense -- saying she doesn't recognize the laws of the U.S. government -- and that she is operating under "divine guidance."

According to the report, "Prosecutors allege that Bauer tried organizing buses to transport people to D.C. for a rally that preceded the riot, and that while in the Capitol rotunda she told police that she wanted to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi," with Weill adding, "But in what experts describe as an inadvisable legal strategy, Bauer has demanded to represent herself in court, appeared to threaten a court clerk with prison time, and declared herself a 'self-governed individual' with special legal privileges."

In a Zoom appearance before the court, Bauer told the judge, "I am here by special divine appearance, a living soul," before adding, "I do not stand under the law. Under Genesis 1, God gave man dominion over the law."

https://www.alternet.org/amp/pauline-bauer-2653744779


I’m guessing that she’s angry that Trump isn’t running the Government she doesn’t believe in?
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Judges love the sovereign citizen defense. Sneederbunk Jul 2021 #1
Right? Volaris Jul 2021 #5
Take back ALL that Pandemic aid she received from uncle Joe and close her business down if joetheman Jul 2021 #67
Shouldn't anyone who doesn't believe in our laws, rownesheck Jul 2021 #2
No. Their delusions don't change reality. Mariana Jul 2021 #8
If they violate the laws in our country, the answer is no. NNadir Jul 2021 #10
Yes. Permanent removal of citizenship, along with forced exile. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #39
Maybe we could build them an island out of all the trash floating out there? TigressDem Jul 2021 #55
Call a carpenter,... magicarpet Jul 2021 #3
Oh yes, let's do! flying_wahini Jul 2021 #4
You don't even need a carpenter for that. jmowreader Jul 2021 #22
Good to go,.... magicarpet Jul 2021 #53
Sovereign Citizen stupidity PJMcK Jul 2021 #6
I know a car with SOV. Citizen license plate on it. Captain Zero Jul 2021 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author tikka Jul 2021 #33
The Moorish Nation aren't white nationalists. GoCubsGo Jul 2021 #49
One more question Fritz Walter Jul 2021 #27
Probably a bad precedent, but I agree with the sentiment. tikka Jul 2021 #35
Great point! PJMcK Jul 2021 #45
The answer you will get will always be "But in my case, it's different." CTyankee Jul 2021 #63
If she believes she is not a US citizen, UpInArms Jul 2021 #7
Absolutely-- dawg day Jul 2021 #12
Her God has an idiot for a client. sop Jul 2021 #9
One who thinks the law does not apply to them treestar Jul 2021 #11
Even criminals understand that the law... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #31
And if they are a republican, Mr.Bill Jul 2021 #34
When she loses kairos12 Jul 2021 #13
Grandiose nt XanaDUer2 Jul 2021 #14
straightup psycho, a danger to herself and others - not really complicated, is it? bringthePaine Jul 2021 #15
They attempt to separate themselves from the law by injecting religion into the mix bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #16
No lawyer wanted paid in "Bauer dollars", I presume? Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2021 #17
In My Experience RobinA Jul 2021 #46
Let me guess. Mr. Evil Jul 2021 #18
I want to know how much child sex trafficking goes on at that pizza joint. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #41
I smell a basement! Mr. Evil Jul 2021 #43
Maybe the whole Reich Wing had the WRONG Pizza Parlor for their supposed "Clinton Sex Crimes" TigressDem Jul 2021 #56
I knew deinstitutionalization would bite us in the ass Warpy Jul 2021 #20
I Work For RobinA Jul 2021 #47
I'm guessing admitting to police that you want to get into the Capitol to kill Nancy Pelosi... TigressDem Jul 2021 #57
I'm guessing that "delusion" isn't a box, it's a continuum. Half the country occupies lindysalsagal Jul 2021 #74
"I do not stand under the law"...I think she meant "I do not understand the law"! George II Jul 2021 #21
Sovereigns RobinA Jul 2021 #48
"...has a fool for a client." Ford_Prefect Jul 2021 #23
Another elitist, self aggrandizing Christian. Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #24
Thou shalt not mention Christian in a negative way. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #26
People like this are using Christianity as a badge to hide behind. TigressDem Jul 2021 #60
Whoever suggested that ALL Christians are like her? Mariana Jul 2021 #75
More like a FAILED Christian TigressDem Jul 2021 #59
Not everyone believes what you are professing. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #64
And what do you think I am professing? TigressDem Jul 2021 #68
A lot. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #69
Interesting. So you got nothing? TigressDem Jul 2021 #70
You win. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #71
Not looking for a "win" looking for intelligent discussion. TigressDem Jul 2021 #72
Why make excuses for the racist, paternalistic, misogynistic clap trap Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #65
What I am saying is that these people "calling themselves Christian" are going AGAINST Christianity TigressDem Jul 2021 #66
Yes, yes. And they say you're going against Christianity. Mariana Jul 2021 #76
What I hear is "I am a Christian but I'm not like those other Christians." twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #77
But Christianity is a failed moral and societal system, because it's based on make believe, Sibelius Fan Jul 2021 #78
SO every work of fiction is bullshit? Every character invented has nothing to teach anyone. TigressDem Jul 2021 #79
Not everyone believes what you profess. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #80
If her business is audited I would bet she cheats on taxes. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #25
I'd love to see the math. The % of Nut Cases doing really crazy stuff, cons or libs.. TeamProg Jul 2021 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2021 #32
She was released on PR Maggiemayhem Jul 2021 #29
You have GOT to be kidding me. TigressDem Jul 2021 #73
Does her pizza parlor have... a BASEMENT? JHB Jul 2021 #30
Inquiring minds need to know! 2naSalit Jul 2021 #40
Stole that GIF. Thanks! nt. druidity33 Jul 2021 #51
If ever a trial needed to be televised, this is the one. Sovereign citizen defense. I love it. Vinca Jul 2021 #36
Sovereign citizens really are the gift that keeps on giving. They never fail to be comical. N/T Jedi Guy Jul 2021 #37
As soon as the word "sovereign" is used... You know they are a basket case.(example #3989) world wide wally Jul 2021 #38
I'll bet the pizza sucks. Sorry, I'm a pizza elitist from Chicago. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #42
Cafe Luigi Pizza on Clark St.? Botany Jul 2021 #58
I've heard of it. I've never been there. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #62
This lady is going to find out that a person who represents herself has a fool for a client LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #44
And an ass for a lawyer! Maeve Jul 2021 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #50
K&R Blue Owl Jul 2021 #52
Size large straight jacket? TigressDem Jul 2021 #54
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