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sarisataka

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24. I wasn't say you were defending violence

Fri Jul 16, 2021, 09:48 AM

Jul 2021

I was responding to your statement that it is hard to defend

I am remarking that the majority of posters are saying they need more information before they can condemn such violence and there are some defending it based on conjecture.

It is very similar to the thread about the man who was hospitalized after being beaten on the bus- what did he do to trigger the assault.

It seems it is hard to say beating elderly people is wrong.

AND

If they were using racist language, that is also wrong.

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Woman, 70, repeatedly punched by teenage Walmart employee [View all] Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 OP

It's the caliber of employees hired. no_hypocrisy Jul 2021 #1

WTF?? No witnesses? Even if there weren't, I can guarantee Wal-Mart has bullwinkle428 Jul 2021 #2

This Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #19

Who says there were no witnesses? LisaL Jul 2021 #115

I want to hear from the employee Generic Brad Jul 2021 #3

Need more information jonstl08 Jul 2021 #4

Exactly.. Anyone who makes up their mind based on this sketchy information is hlthe2b Jul 2021 #13

Apparently quite easy to defend sarisataka Jul 2021 #16

Where did I defend violence? hlthe2b Jul 2021 #20

I wasn't say you were defending violence sarisataka Jul 2021 #24

Thank you for clarifying. Sorry to have misunderstood you/taken it personally hlthe2b Jul 2021 #26

No worries sarisataka Jul 2021 #28

You mean like bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #5

Is it possible the customer used a racial slur? Generic Brad Jul 2021 #7

Yes, that's possible. bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #11

Not just "inappropriate", more like "totally unacceptable"! DemocraticPatriot Jul 2021 #145

Even if she did, that is not a free pass to beat a 70 year old person. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #12

exactly... just a few weeks ago, a amazon driver beat a 67 year old for calling her a "bitch" Demovictory9 Jul 2021 #17

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #35

No. It isn't. Legally or ethically, it isn't. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #42

When a 70 year old white woman verbally assaults a 17 year old black woman it is jusitifable LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #54

What did she say sarisataka Jul 2021 #57

She probably called her the N word LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #58

Did she? sarisataka Jul 2021 #62

Why else would she hit the old woman LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #66

Maybe it started with "I don't like your purple hair, you Gen Z sure look and dress weird" Polybius Jul 2021 #70

Most likely LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #72

I like my fantasy better Polybius Jul 2021 #74

Two "probably"s, one "I assume", and one "most likely" add up to ... 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #77

Ten bucks says you fail to see the irony in your having expressed that... LanternWaste Jul 2021 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #124

I had a long list of possibilities sarisataka Jul 2021 #75

You have absolutely no way of knowing that. None. GaYellowDawg Jul 2021 #110

"Probably, maybe, and if" ... I'd like more than a flame-bait story with no camera or witness... Hekate Jul 2021 #103

Good Lord it isn't cinematicdiversions Jul 2021 #150

That's a really good point. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #152

No it's fucking not, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #46

I can't help but wonder if it was an attempt to elicit comments that could be pointed to Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #50

That's what I'm thinking also. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #51

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #56

You're really working this ignorant hate-stirring reaction hard. Seems a bit forced to me. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #60

No LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #63

It's a free Republic. You do you. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #65

You do know this is the democratic underground and not FOX news or Breitbart LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #67

Sure. And speech and assault are still different things. Love your name, by the way. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #68

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #71

Step away from the refrigerator word magnets. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #73

Lol, you're in fine form today! Treefrog Jul 2021 #122

You figured that out in the month you've graced us with your presence? 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #79

Aren't you precious Hekate Jul 2021 #93

You may be on to something with "Free Republic". 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #88

Oh, VERY well played! Treefrog Jul 2021 #119

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #133

Indeed. TheProle Jul 2021 #112

That one seems to be on a (t)roll. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #131

What did she say? Dr. Strange Jul 2021 #85

You don't even know what got said. GaYellowDawg Jul 2021 #106

"You're." Treefrog Jul 2021 #121

Someone who's gotten 3 hides out of one thread. Is that a record? I'm impressed. Hekate Jul 2021 #126

Up to 4 now! Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #134

Brilliant! It has been quite an impressive exercise in... Hekate Jul 2021 #139

Imposter? MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #135

Can you do us a favor? BradAllison Jul 2021 #128

I don't think they believe it themselves. Just trying to get a rise out of people. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #87

And sounding like a Young Republican role-playing that he's a Liberal. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #91

A have read through this site for a few years before joining. LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #146

I remember him! This one is gone now, so I will say that his hidden posts - where Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #147

Thank for the memories, & glad you decided to sign up Hekate Jul 2021 #154

That can be quoted elsewhere Hekate Jul 2021 #95

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #55

Agreed. Similar inflammatory verbiage was spewed in a different thread yesterday. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #82

By the same one? Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #84

Yup. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #89

Edited: the info in the original of this post came from a post that has been removed. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #102

It seems to be Hekate Jul 2021 #92

That was exactly what I was going to post... that post smelled to high heaven Peacetrain Jul 2021 #116

His hidden posts were doozies. Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #117

+1 Hekate Jul 2021 #90

Don't be an ass Bucky Jul 2021 #80

Welcome to DU. I hope you enjoy your stay. Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #83

There is nothing anyone can say that justifies an employee hitting them Merlot Jul 2021 #15

So what? LiberatedUSA Jul 2021 #48

I don't give a shit how offensive her words were Polybius Jul 2021 #69

This thread is very disheartening. Treefrog Jul 2021 #123

justifying a teenager punching a 70 year old Skittles Jul 2021 #143

If the customer said something truly egregious Bettie Jul 2021 #76

"Passionate response"?!? GaYellowDawg Jul 2021 #105

Passionate feeling is no excuse for physial violence wackadoo wabbit Jul 2021 #127

Who do you believe LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #6

good God. Judge much? CurtEastPoint Jul 2021 #8

Yes, when a 70 year old white woman assaults a 17 year old black woman LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #53

It was the other way around Polybius Jul 2021 #132

What if the employee is a 17 yr old Karen? Budi Jul 2021 #10

17 year old Black woman assaulted by 70 year old white woman LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #52

You could post the conversation that triggered that Assault, Budi Jul 2021 #78

And guess what? MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #138

I guess we'll see you again, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #153

Wow, seriously? Treefrog Jul 2021 #31

What about Trump? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2021 #38

what about him? Skittles Jul 2021 #144

Keep digging that hole deeper. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2021 #137

I think - THINK - we are looking at an two assaults: the older woman verbally assaulted ... marble falls Jul 2021 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #14

Worked Retail for 4+ decades Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #18

Agree. An employee needs to step away and get a manager. But at 17 do they have that training? CurtEastPoint Jul 2021 #21

Training? Sherman A1 Jul 2021 #25

I have always been amazed PatSeg Jul 2021 #23

While there is NO reason for this to have come to blows, I would like to know both sides Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #22

You'd Think So ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #118

It's crazy. I would be surprised if he didn't have someone videoing him the entire time. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #120

I Get You ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #125

Physically assaulting elderly people is wrong. sarisataka Jul 2021 #27

Physically assaulting people is wrong. Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #47

TY sarisataka Jul 2021 #49

The excuse making here for the clerk is disgusting but not surprising. Ace Rothstein Jul 2021 #29

K & R it is still Physical Assault. The cashier was known for her reactionary temperment. Budi Jul 2021 #30

Totally disgusting!!! What if the races were reversed? Beakybird Jul 2021 #32

What disturbs me is everyone's assuming that the white elderly lady said something Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #39

Exactly. Those of us who fight against racism also need to be vigilant about reverse racism. Beakybird Jul 2021 #43

I think many of those posts are trolling. yardwork Jul 2021 #151

"Excuse making" Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #40

Nah, it is excuse making because black perp and white victim. Ace Rothstein Jul 2021 #41

No one is excusing violence. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2021 #45

Really, because I have seen a bunch of posts doing just that. Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #148

Geez, she's got two black eyes. Weird that some here seem Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #33

What if she called her the N word? LifeLongDemocratic Jul 2021 #59

What if she did? What if, for example, someone here called you a troll. Would that Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #64

Sometimes speech is assault. (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #136

Speech is never assault. Ever. It never justifies physical assault. NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #140

The Supreme Court disagrees with you Spider Jerusalem Jul 2021 #141

There have been a lot of cases since that one that have limited NYC Liberal Jul 2021 #142

You can't punch people because they insult you. Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #96

So fucking what if she did? GaYellowDawg Jul 2021 #108

Baseless speculation. LisaL Jul 2021 #114

What if a ghost punched the old lady instead? n/m BradAllison Jul 2021 #130

What if the clerk was just a vicious little jerk??? Marrah_Goodman Jul 2021 #149

Wal-Mart is crawling with CCTV obamanut2012 Jul 2021 #34

Doubtful the tapes would have sound sarisataka Jul 2021 #37

This will happen when 17 year olds can't join the police. bluedigger Jul 2021 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jul 2021 #44

Post removed Post removed Jul 2021 #61

I have tried Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jul 2021 #104

The story as told was much too sketchy, and the presentation invited projection... Hekate Jul 2021 #107

More.... chowder66 Jul 2021 #86

Geez 2 managers couldn't diffuse the situation? GusBob Jul 2021 #94

There may not be more to the story. Ace Rothstein Jul 2021 #97

its trite to say but GusBob Jul 2021 #100

Because Wallmart is known for its stellar customer service? LisaL Jul 2021 #113

No no no BradAllison Jul 2021 #129

If the story is accurate, I'd think there would be store video to confirm it. Vinca Jul 2021 #98

The clerk was already arrested and charged. Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #99

A friend of mine said that when he worked in a big box store, people called him "boy" all the time. Coventina Jul 2021 #109

In a job I had when I was a young woman, I was openly called "cannon fodder." Scrivener7 Jul 2021 #111