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Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
8. Priority for transplants is based on need, not merit, not when you got in line.
Sat Jul 17, 2021, 11:53 PM
Jul 2021

The goal is to get the organ into the person closest to death who is not so sick that giving the organ to would be a waste, taking into account how geographically close to the organ you are.

No reason to be pissed about it. If they are given an organ it means that the assesment is that it gives them a chance to survive (i.e. they aren't already too far gone) AND they needed it more (i.e. they were closer to death) than any other compatible recipient in the right geographical area.

But you are right that many patients die waiting on an organ - but the organ allocation rules are crafted with the goal of maximizing the use of precious resources to save the most lives - not on rewarding those who got in line early, or whose lives might be deemed more worthy, etc.

(My daughter has a rare liver disease. Some of our friends with the same disease have had as many as 5 transplants. So far she is lucky and seems to be in the slow lane, which has its own challlenges. As to this disease (primary sclerosing cholangitis the MELD/PELD scores are bad measures for how close people with this disease are to the end of life - so perhaps a third have to find a living donor to avoid dying because our scores are disproportionately low relative to how damaged the liver is. So I get the frustration. But aside from quirks like that, the problem isn't a flawed allocation system as much as it is too few peope willing to donate their organs.)

If anything, a long-haul case of Covid is worse than dying from it. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #1
I have been down for almost a year. Hoping JCMach1 Jul 2021 #6
OMG! Sogo Jul 2021 #9
Hope you get back to normal malaise Jul 2021 #29
We All Will Be Affected by COVID Costs in the End Indykatie Jul 2021 #2
Priority for transplants is based on need, not merit, not when you got in line. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #8
And these deniers are the same idiots who support those who deny us healthcare. rickyhall Jul 2021 #3
Until we drive a stake into the heart of Reagan/Trumpism we shall remain a very fked-up country. OMGWTF Jul 2021 #13
Agree with the point, but almost everyone has coverage for CV19 treatment and Hoyt Jul 2021 #4
I know the vaccines are free, but I am very doubtful all treatment for Covid-19 is free. OMGWTF Jul 2021 #14
you have to have some sort of health coverage yellowdogintexas Jul 2021 #15
See post 21. The Cares Act specifically covers TREATMENT for the uninsured. Hoyt Jul 2021 #22
This person is a fountain of misinformation. NJCher Jul 2021 #18
Check Cares Act and HRSA COVID-19 Uninsured Program-- These cover CV19 treatment for non-insured. Hoyt Jul 2021 #21
Average cost... littlemissmartypants Jul 2021 #16
Pfft NJCher Jul 2021 #19
Exactly. Pffft. littlemissmartypants Jul 2021 #20
The Cares Act provides coverage for uninsured. See Post #21 for details and links. Hoyt Jul 2021 #24
Isn't that only treatment coverage? tia uponit7771 Jul 2021 #23
Yes, it's for treatment such as two months in ICU on a ventilator, or a prescription from your doc. Hoyt Jul 2021 #25
Right so that is the devastation I've seen and experienced; that even if you have the best health in uponit7771 Jul 2021 #26
Agree. Responded to OP who said medical bills will wipe uninsured out, that's not necessarily true. Hoyt Jul 2021 #27
Covid effects will wipe the INSURED out how are the uninsured more protected? tia uponit7771 Jul 2021 #28
Because the Care Act will pay for their treatment if they are not insured. What else can I say? Hoyt Jul 2021 #30
Again it's not just treatment it's after the treatment where people have problems uponit7771 Jul 2021 #31
20% of the bill is yours... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #32
OP said nothing about the uninsured... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #34
OP referred to "never pay off medical bills . . . . . " That seems pretty plain to me, but thanks. Hoyt Jul 2021 #35
Long Covid: More than two million in England may have suffered, study suggests Jarqui Jul 2021 #5
Long haul can sure be horrible! SheltieLover Jul 2021 #7
My other friend had a bad time Jarqui Jul 2021 #11
So sorry to hear this SheltieLover Jul 2021 #12
Many long haulers are homebound... Trueblue Texan Jul 2021 #33
I maxed out me deductible and out of pocket two years in a row a couple years back. brewens Jul 2021 #10
no one cares as long as wall street is booming the country thinks everything is peachy. nt yaesu Jul 2021 #17
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