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Plaid Adder

(5,518 posts)
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 11:35 AM Oct 2012

Romney's Equal Pay Answer: Two Solid Minutes of FAIL [View all]

Oh, let me count the number of myths about women in the workforce that that asshole ratified in his answer to that question. No, there are too many. I will choose only two.

1) Women are not as ambitious as men.

Because apparently, they didn't even _apply_ for jobs in his cabinet. He, big strong chivalrous man, had to heroically SEARCH for women who wanted cabinet positions in his administration. My ass! MAYBE if you are the governor of Planet Ferenginar you would run into that situation...but not in Massachusetts.

What, these women in these binders were so shy and retiring and meek that you couldn't POSSIBLY have known about them if "feminist groups" hadn't been out there searching for them? No, you asshole; if it's even true that your staff just "didn't know" there were qualified women out there, it's because you and your staff are a bunch of old boys' network cronies who cultivated complete ignorance of these women in order to avoid having to bring any girls into their clubhouse.

2) Women care more about cooking dinner for their kids than about their careers.

This is perhaps the part that pisses me off most. Because it implies a) all women are mothers (otherwise you wouldn't have to do this to get WOMEN into the workforce) b) mothers do all the parenting (because obviously MEN don't need to be home at 5:00 to cook dinner for their kids) c) women with kids don't and can't pull their own weight at the office.

I hate this whole tricolon, but maybe I hate c) the most. Because you know what, Mitt, someone does have to feed the kids. You may be interested to know, however, Mitt, that men of my generation and the generations younger than me are starting to realize the idea that the person going home early to cook dinner for the kids has to be a woman is fucked up, and to understand that by treating men as if THEY don't need any time with their partners or children, the workplace is really screwing them out of something very important. My brother just got laid off, Mitt, and I just spent some time talking to him about it, and a tiny little dagger went into my heart when, after I spent ten minutes telling him what a good father he is and how much I admire him for that, he said as if it was a horrible thing to have to admit, yeah, I guess maybe being a parent is more important than my job. IT IS. IT IS, for EVERYONE, not just for women. But NOTHING about the way our society is constructed acknowledges that or makes it possible for people to act on it. And then along comes Mitt to remind us all that only women give a shit about being available for their children. Fuck you, Mitt. My brother cares. And I have been wishing for years that the profession he's in would allow him to act on that. He didn't take his 12 weeks of FMLA leave for any of his kids when they were born, even though he coudl well afford it. I think maybe he took 2 weeks for his first child. It's not because he didn't want it. It's because he knew the guys he worked with would take that as an indication that he wasn't serious about his job. And that is exactly what you and your "flexible schedule" answer have just implied: that women--all of whom apparently reproduce--will never really take their jobs as seriously as men are supposed to.

For all the shit slung by politicians about how important children are, our economy makes it damn hard to take care of them. My wife and I both work and are both mothers. Like most women in our situation, we could only do this at first by hiring someone else to do some of the parenting work. Now, we have one of those "flexible" situations Mitt is describing. Only Mitt didn't tell you how, in order to be home by 5:00 to cook dinner, you have to go in early before your kid is even awake in the morning, and then go in to work on the weekends, because the fucking work still has to get done. No, he left us all with the impression that women can only be in the workforce if we make special accommodations for them and give them a reduced schedule.

We who work and raise children have a name for the kind of job Mitt just promised to create for all American women. We call it the Mommy Track. The Mommy Track is lateral, not vertical. You don't have a problem with the glass ceiling on the Mommy Track because the Mommy Track does not take you within striking distance of it.

And then--AND THEN--he goes on to tell us that only when the economy is thriving will employers try to recruit women again. Because WE ALL KNOW that women only get into the workforce once all the men are used up. I mean why would you let a WOMAN who WANTS a job take one away from a MAN who NEEDS it?

OK. So. You contrast this with Obama's answer, which began with him noting that women are "increasingly the breadwinners" and that this not just a women's issue but a "family issue." This is is a man who is in touch with twenty-first century reality, my friend. I don't know WHERE the fuck Mitt flew in from. The 1970s, maybe.

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder

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Binders full of FAIL! tk2kewl Oct 2012 #1
FUCK yeah! FirstLight Oct 2012 #2
I may have an answer for you on the Generational thing.... Volaris Oct 2012 #40
well said! FirstLight Oct 2012 #49
You're RIGHT about the connection between Gen-X males and their divorced fathers... Volaris Oct 2012 #65
I am totally right there with you on this FirstLight Oct 2012 #68
Make DAMN sure though the younger one doesn't move to a spiritual place Volaris Oct 2012 #72
AND THEN-- annabanana Oct 2012 #3
And the woman's husband couldn't cook? Couldn't get away from work? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #4
Yeap, all the time he worked at Bain he saw no qualified women? Tells a lot about Bain... uponit7771 Oct 2012 #5
Women don't need equal pay, we just need more time to cook! blue neen Oct 2012 #6
What nauseated me the most was his attempt to bully Crowley by catbyte Oct 2012 #7
His body language all night was entitled bully. dhendry Oct 2012 #54
Mitt needs a Dumpster. mlevans Oct 2012 #8
Incredible post Matariki Oct 2012 #9
He is so incredibly out of touch. Quantess Oct 2012 #10
I just realized why Willard gave that answer. surfwith Oct 2012 #11
Welcome to DU, surfwith! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #24
PERFECT Post 2theleft Oct 2012 #12
BRAVO!!!!! redqueen Oct 2012 #13
I am a woman. So is my wife. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #22
... redqueen Oct 2012 #25
It's all right, redqueen. A lot of people misidentify me as male based on my writing style. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #27
She is a woman. She also mentions in the OP that she and her wife are BOTH mothers. nt tblue37 Oct 2012 #33
dinner hibbing Oct 2012 #14
Just let the girls go home early JenniferJuniper Oct 2012 #15
Wow!! That's a blast from the past! FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #60
I'm a man. It was always me with the "flex time" to cook dinner. hunter Oct 2012 #16
He is a MORMON! If you want to know his views on women teewrex Oct 2012 #17
PA...you are on a SERIOUS ROLL!! Huge K&R! bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #18
He never addressed the pay issue!!! DryHump Oct 2012 #19
He Stopped Just Short Of Saying............. ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2012 #20
yeah heaven05 Oct 2012 #21
Fantastic post! As always, you illuminate the question perfectly. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #23
K&R abelenkpe Oct 2012 #26
Hold on, let me just call up the factory NiteOwll Oct 2012 #28
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #29
Bravo! JawJaw Oct 2012 #30
More like the 1950's. Before BC access and glowing Oct 2012 #31
I'm a dad and I make dinner for my wife and kids every evening Aldo Leopold Oct 2012 #32
Just to be a nerd, SCVDem Oct 2012 #34
Thanks. It's been a long time since TNG and I couldn't remember. n/t Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #35
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #42
If Mitt weren't so tall I would swear he was Quark's long-lost other brother. Plaid Adder Oct 2012 #45
A public apology. Moosepoop Oct 2012 #47
This picture contains a virus! Moosepoop Oct 2012 #46
Picture is from Funny or Die, not site posted. hunter Oct 2012 #48
That one is fine! Moosepoop Oct 2012 #50
And the hilarious punchline is this: Romney is pandering (and lying) here. cemaphonic Oct 2012 #36
You give Mitt too much credit. He's straight out of the 1950s. He's LibDemAlways Oct 2012 #37
The part about "cooking dinner" is certainly the one that pisses me the most. Mass Oct 2012 #38
+1000 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2012 #39
I got married in 1980 SheilaT Oct 2012 #41
Even His "Binders" Comment Was A Lie DallasNE Oct 2012 #43
lost mittens is such a loathsome thing. nt Javaman Oct 2012 #44
love this rant! southmost Oct 2012 #51
I would never be where Mitt is financially because I would have stopped and spent more time with my Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #52
Brilliantly and forcefully stated. Well done, Plaid Adder! dhendry Oct 2012 #53
newbie here but ABSOLUTELY HAD to say... dangerdoll Oct 2012 #55
Welcome to DU. surrealAmerican Oct 2012 #57
thanks! dangerdoll Oct 2012 #58
I have a minor quibble with #2 Major Nikon Oct 2012 #56
Great righteous rant! K&R nt femrap Oct 2012 #59
PA, I love you... KatyaR Oct 2012 #61
I'm really glad you are posting again. n/t Change has come Oct 2012 #62
omg there is a planet Ferenginar!!!! I thought you made that up. robinlynne Oct 2012 #63
great thread! BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2012 #64
Most insightful response of the whole debate M---Girl Oct 2012 #66
I raised four kids as a single working mother. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. Arkansas Granny Oct 2012 #67
Two minutes of fail, one post of genius WoodyD Oct 2012 #69
Did you see the look on the woman's face that asked the question? Kalidurga Oct 2012 #70
This sums it up nicely... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #71
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