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Blue_true

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131. You capture my thought processes almost exactly.

Wed Jul 28, 2021, 08:25 PM

Jul 2021

The great Senator Ted Kennedy turned dow a very good health care proposal from Nixon because he felt it didn’t go far enough, he regretted that later in life and once opined that he should have taken it then moved forward from there.

It enrages me when people claim that “establishment” Democrats have gotten nothing done. I have knowledge of living through the post civil rights years, while things are not where I as a Democrat want them, they are a LOT better than they were in 1985.

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Robert Reich, Clinton Secretary of Labor, endorses Nina Turner for Ohio special election. [View all] progressoid Jul 2021 OP

Great response to this Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #1

I wonder if the idiot tweeter who posted that twitter response even read his tweet ColinC Jul 2021 #5

Personal attack? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #11

No irony. I have nothing against personally attacking stupid idiots on ColinC Jul 2021 #18

Woosh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author ColinC Jul 2021 #37

You called a respected DUer an idiot, then doubled down on the guise of this being Twitter.... George II Jul 2021 #38

I was obviously referring to the Tweet shared, not the person sharing it ColinC Jul 2021 #39

Why was it stupid? betsuni Jul 2021 #42

It is attacking Robert Reich more than it is attacking turner ColinC Jul 2021 #43

Robert Reich needs to be called Out for Cha Jul 2021 #60

That's not what a purity test is. betsuni Jul 2021 #81

Personal attack? sheshe2 Jul 2021 #16

Oh, attacks on Democrats are allowed now? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #29

Oh please Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2021 #36

You posted an attack on Robert Reich Sympthsical Jul 2021 #49

Reich had philosophical differences with President Clinton, and resigned to "spend more time.... George II Jul 2021 #50

There ya go Sympthsical Jul 2021 #53

Happy to oblige. Interesting you had no comment about the content of my post. Hmmmmm. George II Jul 2021 #56

There wasn't any content Sympthsical Jul 2021 #91

Speaking of exhausting people, maybe try explaining Nina's Nixie Jul 2021 #94

And yet you have not comment about the content, just a snarky insult. Thanks! George II Jul 2021 #58

Speaking of having things in you...were you here to see Nixie Jul 2021 #89

I never said establishment Dems are on drugs Sympthsical Jul 2021 #92

Yet more hypocrisy, but you that's all you have, it seems. Nixie Jul 2021 #93

Was Reich up for election? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #95

I think I'm seeing your problem here. Make it easy on yourself and just admit that Nixie Jul 2021 #100

He said President Obama "allowed powerful interests to cash in" "about $16 billion a year" betsuni Jul 2021 #55

Ikr.. as I previously posted.. Not everyone Cha Jul 2021 #62

Reich deserves to be called Out for Cha Jul 2021 #61

Turner? Democrat? Maybe you should read the announcement by The People's Party, the party.... George II Jul 2021 #44

It was attacking Robert reich ColinC Jul 2021 #45

Robert Reich is a Democrat in good standing Sympthsical Jul 2021 #48

So? Not everyone thinks Reich is all that.. he Cha Jul 2021 #63

We're not supposed to attack Democrats here Sympthsical Jul 2021 #65

We Can Call Out Reich. Cha Jul 2021 #66

Saying he's on drugs? Sympthsical Jul 2021 #67

If we disagree with him we can say so.. Cha Jul 2021 #68

Imagine that criticizing someone running for office as a Democrat calling the leader of the party betsuni Jul 2021 #70

Excellent Point.. TY! Ikr.. enough Cha Jul 2021 #71

Yet the drug thing is what I responded to Sympthsical Jul 2021 #107

Do we need Turner saying this about now Democratic Pres Biden? Cha Jul 2021 #109

Who said anyone was on drugs? I search the entire thread - the only references to drugs... George II Jul 2021 #96

Someone retweeted a post Sympthsical Jul 2021 #106

Keep moving those goalposts. LanternWaste Jul 2021 #124

And there's the bingo Sympthsical Jul 2021 #127

Watch this ad see what you think about the use of drugs LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #146

Of Course WE Can Me. Aug 2021 #149

Ridiculous! NurseJackie Jul 2021 #72

I like your definition! progressoid Jul 2021 #101

That's exactly right. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #103

In deference to an elected Democrat, I give you Jamie Raskin. progressoid Jul 2021 #105

Thanks. NurseJackie Jul 2021 #108

He's also on the Board of Directors of the now reactivated Sanders Institute. George II Jul 2021 #102

I never liked him. But, at least he's not calling Democrats "corporate whores" or "Coastal-Elites"... NurseJackie Jul 2021 #104

+++, of course we know that's what these tangents Nixie Jul 2021 #116

Having a difference of opinion with a Democrat isn't "attacking" him/her. On the other hand.... George II Jul 2021 #88

This ad is so bad that it made me laughed LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #145

Oh my... sure, that'll help. Budi Aug 2021 #150

I don't care for him and haven't for quite a while. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #77

What constitutes "good standing"? George II Jul 2021 #83

Evidently, saying something makes it true. betsuni Jul 2021 #84

Nina Turner was a Democratic superdelegate when she went all in for Jill Stein in 2016. lapucelle Jul 2021 #139

I'm discussing Reich, not Turner Sympthsical Jul 2021 #140

You can't wait for attacks on Raskin? Were you outraged that the CBC was called "petty & confused"? lapucelle Jul 2021 #141

Nina Turner is not a Democrat first of all and secondly, I don't care what platform she supports... Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #74

Nina Turner is a democrat? 😮 News to me..every time I see her she is bashing democrats. Nt helpisontheway Jul 2021 #76

How ironic that you are concerned about hypocrisy. Nixie Jul 2021 #90

6 minutes. Winning! Arazi Jul 2021 #47

Who else loves this platform? Doremus Jul 2021 #2

What's not to love? Blue_true Jul 2021 #3

Then why don't 98% of Democrats run on that platform? ColinC Jul 2021 #6

Because they are not empty grandstanders. Blue_true Jul 2021 #7

No. Getting policy done always starts with an intention to do so. ColinC Jul 2021 #9

So, in your world, getting policy into law never involved thinking about doing so. Blue_true Jul 2021 #12

No. In my world getting policy into law requires an intention to do so ColinC Jul 2021 #19

The politicians that you say haven't done anything are the only Blue_true Jul 2021 #24

I never said any politicians have done nothing ColinC Jul 2021 #25

Endorsing something is not the same as getting those items into law. Blue_true Jul 2021 #28

Agreed. But you cannot get anything into law without an intention to do so ColinC Jul 2021 #30

Have you even heard of Shontel Brown? MrsCoffee Jul 2021 #87

Thank you, MrsCoffee! sheshe2 Jul 2021 #118

Emotional "Fighting for" and "taking on." betsuni Jul 2021 #31

The people that believe that the greater populace will magically embrace change Blue_true Jul 2021 #41

Delusional is right. betsuni Jul 2021 #51

You capture my thought processes almost exactly. Blue_true Jul 2021 #131

Thing is, what is possible can also seem delusional ColinC Jul 2021 #59

FDR compromised whenever it moved his agenda forward. When he took office the Great Depression betsuni Jul 2021 #69

The NHS in Britain came about as a result of the devastation of WWII. Blue_true Jul 2021 #133

+1 betsuni Jul 2021 #136

The platform Reich and I suppose Turner support is not going to be acted into law. They both Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #78

Some of us see what you point out clearly. Blue_true Jul 2021 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author leftstreet Jul 2021 #10

Indeed. progressoid Jul 2021 #8

They do leftstreet Jul 2021 #13

$$$$ jalan48 Jul 2021 #27

Because 98% of Democrats run on platforms that are realistic and achievable. George II Jul 2021 #54

Marijuana is legalized in some form in 48/50 states ColinC Jul 2021 #57

by the time we get around to upping the min wage to 15 Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #112

A number of reasons. I personally don't agree with two of those items, I'm sure other Democrats.... George II Jul 2021 #119

Absolutely concede your point about Turner as a valid argument, BUT I profoundly dispute Celerity Jul 2021 #20

Me! That's what we all need, the only way to get it is to vote for people who support that platform. Autumn Jul 2021 #17

Exactly! Doremus Jul 2021 #22

What platform is that? Certainly not the Democratic National Committee platform, on which Biden ran. George II Jul 2021 #46

I don't really have a problem with the platform. I've got a BIG problem with the messenger. skylucy Jul 2021 #4

I don't get it. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #14

Yes empedocles Jul 2021 #15

You don't understand why she has a single endorsement? Doremus Jul 2021 #21

"Greater opportunity to do both"? George II Jul 2021 #52

I live in the 11th district and I am not impressed with Ms. Turner who is no longer a Democrat and Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #79

Because I've been very happy with her representation in the past Doremus Jul 2021 #82

Nina is a politician, not a green one. Establishment. betsuni Jul 2021 #85

Yes she is Doremus Jul 2021 #132

Yes it was posted here. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #120

This ....she's nothing but trouble..has already proven that PortTack Jul 2021 #23

Robert Reich also endorsed Sanders' (forerunner to tRump's) claims Hortensis Jul 2021 #26

Yes, not surprising. betsuni Jul 2021 #32

Yeah.. shite like this is why I do Not Cha Jul 2021 #64

Yup! Bernie is his most recent political affiliation , Nixie Aug 2021 #147

:) The Clinton name just makes me want to take a stick to the lot of Hortensis Aug 2021 #148

Unlike what Turner did in 2016, refusing to vote for the Democratic nominee, if Turner wins her JohnSJ Jul 2021 #33

That would be a shame, wouldn't it? NurseJackie Jul 2021 #73

exactly Jackie JohnSJ Jul 2021 #80

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2021 #34

Just Say No To Nina. Platform good; "bowl of shit" comment bad. We don't need whackos. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2021 #40

so one unfortunate comment should disqualify a politician? Voltaire2 Jul 2021 #113

Frankly it is the whole package and not one comment. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #121

Said it twice. She thinks both parties are the same. Why she voted for Jill Stein. betsuni Jul 2021 #122

🤢nt helpisontheway Jul 2021 #75

Jamie Raskin just endorsed Turner as well. Nanjeanne Jul 2021 #86

Nice. progressoid Jul 2021 #97

this kind of support makes her critics look petty and confused bigtree Jul 2021 #98

No, you're Wrong.. this is what is "petty and conffused".. Cha Jul 2021 #110

She did more than criticize the Democratic Party... George II Jul 2021 #111

Ugh. That's horrible Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2021 #125

Does THat Include Rep. Clyburn? Me. Jul 2021 #114

Ouch. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #123

You mean the guy who Mike called "incredibly stupid" and Turner nodded in agreement and said.... George II Jul 2021 #126

Talk About Stupid... Me. Jul 2021 #130

So you think the Congressional Black Caucus is "petty and confused"? NurseJackie Jul 2021 #115

Refusing to vote for the Democratic nominee in 2016, and encouraging others to do the same JohnSJ Jul 2021 #117

Reich's been a Bernie Sanders supporter for years. This doesn't make anybody look like anything. betsuni Jul 2021 #129

Robert Reich finally endorsing Nina makes the Congressional Black Caucus look petty and confused? lapucelle Jul 2021 #138

Are you sure that Nina will caucus with the Democrats? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #142

Excellent! n/t Devil Child Jul 2021 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Jul 2021 #128

Why did Reich sit on the fence so long? He and former superdelegate Nina worked together lapucelle Jul 2021 #135

I snort every time I remember the "They tried to seduce us with donuts and water" moment. betsuni Jul 2021 #137

This ad is very effective LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #143

Excellent.. Rt TY! Cha Jul 2021 #144