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44. Good article about unions and how they were basically ignored.

Sat Jul 31, 2021, 12:18 AM

Jul 2021

Obama never seemed particularly interested in labor’s hopes of passing a card check bill as a method for employees to organize. And Obama’s embrace of charter schools was a slap in the face to the teachers’ unions who had supported him.

http://bostonreview.net/politics/erik-loomis-democrats-and-labor-frenemies-forever

I think black people are sometimes more conservative, especially with regard to the identity issues like LGBTQ, and just more Dem establishment. I think racism is our big sickness. If we treated black people the same as white people it would not only free them but free us. If there was one issue I would like to solve it would be this. It would transform us.

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Good Question...We, As Democrats , Need To Have This Discussion [View all] sheshe2 Jul 2021 OP

Amen Kang Colby Jul 2021 #1

Bazinga, Kang. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #43

It is an interesting discussion UpInArms Jul 2021 #2

"None of them show up for the grinding meetings" former9thward Jul 2021 #7

How does one do that? Blue_true Jul 2021 #9

I believe the poster was talking about party meetings. former9thward Jul 2021 #11

I have been in both. They are about the same. Blue_true Jul 2021 #12

When I owned the local newspaper UpInArms Jul 2021 #17

Most people just complain about government. Blue_true Jul 2021 #46

Toss Platitudes sheshe2 Jul 2021 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2021 #49

To clarify my post, Blue. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #52

I understood your original post. Blue_true Aug 2021 #63

"Many times (probably 95% of the time) I was the only person Mariana Jul 2021 #55

When peeps did show up, they were not young either UpInArms Jul 2021 #58

So like so Rebl2 Jul 2021 #13

Well, some meetings are more "fun" than others UpInArms Jul 2021 #16

I have been to many meetings when old war horses stand in the way. former9thward Jul 2021 #20

I generally agree.... TheRealNorth Jul 2021 #3

Please explain. nt sheshe2 Jul 2021 #4

Explain how. Blue_true Jul 2021 #10

K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Jul 2021 #5

Makes me so angry when then refer to themselves as "the base" mcar Jul 2021 #6

I find this fascinating. The construction of a fantasy worldview. Except it's not a game. betsuni Jul 2021 #8

No, it is not a game. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #15

Yes. betsuni Jul 2021 #19

K & R Thank You Sheshe2. Has to be said, & you did! Budi Jul 2021 #14

My Budi! sheshe2 Jul 2021 #22

Frankly, I've heard this sort of rhetoric before. Marcus Pullarius Jul 2021 #18

She. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #23

Oh, sheshe, please don't misunderstand me, Marcus Pullarius Jul 2021 #53

welp sheshe2 Jul 2021 #56

The name-calling flooding social media. betsuni Aug 2021 #61

Excellent list.✅ sheshe2 Aug 2021 #62

What rhetoric? betsuni Jul 2021 #25

... sheshe2 Jul 2021 #31

Opposite World! betsuni Jul 2021 #32

no shit. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #33

Say what? That's a mighty serious accusation you're making. George II Jul 2021 #29

"This is eerily similar to the troll posts leading up to the 2016 primaries" StarfishSaver Jul 2021 #37

very observant. Marcus Pullarius Jul 2021 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2021 #67

I am also curious as to what is the rhetoric? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #42

I'm as much a Democrat as anyone here. I voted once for a Republican when I was 18. He was Gaugamela Jul 2021 #21

I'm with you. scipan Jul 2021 #51

Totally agree with everything you say. Those are issues I would like to address. But if the right Gaugamela Aug 2021 #64

People here like to bash the progressive wing. scipan Jul 2021 #24

Please give some examples of Democrats fulfilling "the wishes of big corporations ... because betsuni Jul 2021 #26

Labor unions. scipan Jul 2021 #27

Labor unions what? betsuni Jul 2021 #28

The Biden administration has made some noises I'm scipan Jul 2021 #35

Okay. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #30

You set up the conditions. If I can't meet them it's false. scipan Jul 2021 #34

I believe anyone who has been paying attention scipan Jul 2021 #36

Not true. There was labor union representation. betsuni Jul 2021 #39

Bernie Sanders, pro union had a seat at the table in 2016. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #40

I don't post much here but I come every day. scipan Jul 2021 #38

I posted it for discussion. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #41

Good article about unions and how they were basically ignored. scipan Jul 2021 #44

So do I have a voice here, is it welcomed? scipan Jul 2021 #45

You can say whatever you wish. sheshe2 Jul 2021 #47

That's fine. scipan Jul 2021 #50

Joe Manchin. DemocraticPatriot Aug 2021 #59

But how do you know he's being a Manchin because of money? What corporations are supposedly betsuni Aug 2021 #60

Every democrat is "progressive" people who can't negotiate don't get to define who's such uponit7771 Aug 2021 #65

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #66

Thank you. we can do it Jul 2021 #57

So, to recap: those of us who are farther left than the most rightward Democrat Bettie Aug 2021 #68

Oh, geez, not this shit again. Roisin Ni Fiachra Aug 2021 #69