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Treefrog

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129. Yeah, I believe that's regarding hospitalization, not infection.

Mon Aug 2, 2021, 02:53 PM

Aug 2021

The poster was referring to infection.

But Pfizer and Moderna were never credited with more than 95%, so if CNN is saying that, that’s alarming.

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Latest: Help. My neighbor I look after just came to me, "I've been exposed to Covid, can you ... [View all] marble falls Aug 2021 OP

Why wouldn't you? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #1

Exposing my wife is a consideration. We're in our 70's, I'm still fight cancer. We take care of ... marble falls Aug 2021 #3

You are very high risk. LisaL Aug 2021 #21

Hah? LisaL Aug 2021 #11

Really, you do not know why he might not want to? USALiberal Aug 2021 #47

Until he posted the risk factors, no, I did not. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #82

For the record: I trully appreciate your pushing at the boundries. It helps keep ... marble falls Aug 2021 #85

Yes but you should both wear masks, windows in car open, neighbor in back. lark Aug 2021 #2

YES! Faux pas Aug 2021 #9

It's a highly infectious respiratory disease. LisaL Aug 2021 #16

Really, getting the home test for him would be far safer. lark Aug 2021 #23

For sure. LisaL Aug 2021 #26

Paramedics are for emergencies. we can do it Aug 2021 #37

Elder with covid is an emergency. LisaL Aug 2021 #38

An exposure is not an emergency and a waste of resources. we can do it Aug 2021 #50

The neighbor is not asymptomatic as far as I can tell, since OP took him to the hospital and LisaL Aug 2021 #107

Good philasophical questions. I think if he tests positive, has symptons, and no ride, an ambulance Renew Deal Aug 2021 #146

OP already knew neighbor was positive before giving him a ride. LisaL Aug 2021 #148

Walmart, Walgreen's and CVS all sell home tests in-store blogslug Aug 2021 #4

Good answer! marble falls Aug 2021 #5

You could even potentially have one delivered to their address. n/t Hugin Aug 2021 #20

There's the ticket! Hugin Aug 2021 #17

My local Library gives out the antibody blood test kits for free. mackdaddy Aug 2021 #191

Call an ambulance malaise Aug 2021 #6

For a test? Renew Deal Aug 2021 #18

Depends on whether the neighbor is having symptoms or not. LisaL Aug 2021 #30

You might be able to get van service from your ambulance provider Deminpenn Aug 2021 #31

+1,000! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #40

Not that it matters but does he have any symptoms ? Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #7

Yes that's the first question FakeNoose Aug 2021 #63

What about Uber or Lyft? brush Aug 2021 #8

I would hope someone possibly exposed to covid is not out ubering around. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #45

Masks are required by both companies for driver and riders... brush Aug 2021 #49

I wouldn't use any kind of public transportation that might expose others if I thought I had been MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #55

You're uninformed. As I said, masks and distancing are required. brush Aug 2021 #57

Then why are people told to quarantine for two weeks if they suspect being exposed? MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #61

Anyone driving rideshares without being masked and fully vaccinated... brush Aug 2021 #69

If you suspect you have been infected, quarantine. Don't go out and jeopardize others. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #71

Again, if you're fully vaccinated and masked you're 99.999 percent... brush Aug 2021 #73

99,99? LisaL Aug 2021 #104

Thank you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #128

Read this carefully. CNN is citing this all day. brush Aug 2021 #158

CNN can repeat it every five minutes for all I care. LisaL Aug 2021 #161

Tune in quick. Fauci was just on. I guess you know more than him. brush Aug 2021 #163

Oh for crying out loud. LisaL Aug 2021 #164

Tune in right now. Dr. Vin Gupta is on right now saying the same thing. brush Aug 2021 #166

No, he is not saying that. Treefrog Aug 2021 #178

He did. Apparently you weren't watching because he said... brush Aug 2021 #181

I think you are the one who needs to stop because you are wrong. LisaL Aug 2021 #182

Did you actually tune in to CNN any time today? They've... brush Aug 2021 #185

I don't need to tune to CNN. LisaL Aug 2021 #188

God, you are so confused. Ya don't know what you're talking about. brush Aug 2021 #190

I know. It's awful when we women persist, isn't it? Treefrog Aug 2021 #184

Fauci said 96% effectiveness at keeping people out of the hospital. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #198

So we're quibbling over a difference of minuscule percentage points now? brush Aug 2021 #201

First they represent two different different things. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #204

Gupta says one thing, Fauci says another. Who are we to believe? brush Aug 2021 #206

You don't have to choose. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #207

God, so much verbiage. The point again is the chance of... brush Aug 2021 #208

But it isn't, and that's the point. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #209

That's what you're saying. The CDC otoh is saying that... brush Aug 2021 #211

"Have not" Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #214

We'll see if your projections come through. In the meantime, I'll stick with the CDC. brush Aug 2021 #215

It isn't a projection. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #216

I'm sticking with what is actually happening on the ground, thank you. brush Aug 2021 #217

Review my actual predictions from the last year. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #218

This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #59

please no. mopinko Aug 2021 #60

With both masked and the passenger in the back? brush Aug 2021 #64

he is vaxxed, he doesnt let maskholes in. mopinko Aug 2021 #67

It's madness to listen to the right wing media hype that fully... brush Aug 2021 #70

Just stop with this right wing media shit. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #72

Well, some people here are certainly exaggerating the chances... brush Aug 2021 #74

I don't think the protection is that high. Not anywhere near that. Treefrog Aug 2021 #91

You know more than the doctors? It was just cited on CNN... brush Aug 2021 #95

Reading comprehension is really becoming a lost skill. Treefrog Aug 2021 #99

Not in those exact words, but you did say: "I don't think the protection is that high... brush Aug 2021 #155

Ok, others have responded to you. Treefrog Aug 2021 #156

That's a bullshit number. LisaL Aug 2021 #110

You don't have to take my word. Tune in to CNN. They've been citing it all day. brush Aug 2021 #154

I already told you-just because they repeat it all day doesn't mean it is accurate. LisaL Aug 2021 #162

Is there a comprehension problem. The OP person is not... brush Aug 2021 #165

You know that is nonsense. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #124

It's not about non-vaccinated people. The 99.99% is... brush Aug 2021 #152

I understand the figure is for vaccinated people Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #159

Take it up with the doctors and hosts on CNN citing that figure. brush Aug 2021 #192

Before you spread information, you have an obligation to understand it, Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #197

Don Lemon on CNN at the start of his show cited the same figure. brush Aug 2021 #199

I have. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #200

So we can't take Dr. Vin Gupta's word now? brush Aug 2021 #202

The figure doesn't mean what you think it means. LisaL Aug 2021 #213

Thank you! greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #66

You know somebody actually drives those, right? greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #65

If you've been exposed pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #86

Anybody driving Uber or Lyft and hasn't taken the time to get... brush Aug 2021 #97

Yikes. You are high risk. LisaL Aug 2021 #10

Where in the post does it say he's infected? brush Aug 2021 #58

And where does it say that everyone infected carries a high viral load? FBaggins Aug 2021 #80

What does your post mean. All I asked is where does it say he's infected? brush Aug 2021 #83

I was agreeing with you FBaggins Aug 2021 #84

Right in the OP. LisaL Aug 2021 #116

He wasn't vaccinated. Well those not vaccinated are driving the spread. brush Aug 2021 #153

You are a good neighbor. North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #12

Then he will expose uber or lyft driver. LisaL Aug 2021 #13

Valid point Lisa North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #19

Well, if he is symptomatic and old, they could take him to a hospital for treatment. LisaL Aug 2021 #24

Good thought process. North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #27

He should be upfront with said drive dsc Aug 2021 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Oneironaut Aug 2021 #14

Buy neighbor at-home kit LeftInTX Aug 2021 #15

Sure. The risk is miniscule FBaggins Aug 2021 #22

Yea, sure. LisaL Aug 2021 #25

The OP said that the neighbor was exposed FBaggins Aug 2021 #32

So there is no point of OP getting exposed himself. LisaL Aug 2021 #33

So which is it? FBaggins Aug 2021 #76

Well, as it turns out, the neighbor is positive. LisaL Aug 2021 #101

I think Delta has changed all of this, it was once the case but madville Aug 2021 #92

Fauci never said that the vaccinated were as likely to catch and/or spread Delta FBaggins Aug 2021 #96

There are hundreds of them who caught it in small MA town alone. LisaL Aug 2021 #106

So? Why are we ignoring thousands of other datapoints? FBaggins Aug 2021 #111

WTF are you talking about? LisaL Aug 2021 #113

Delta has been the primary variant in many countries for months now. FBaggins Aug 2021 #114

Israel has reported much lower Pfizer efficacy with delta. LisaL Aug 2021 #115

And yet they're averaging just 1-2 deaths per day. FBaggins Aug 2021 #120

OP is seventy year old fighting cancer. LisaL Aug 2021 #136

Sigh FBaggins Aug 2021 #137

Vaccinated people who die are usually elderly with conditions. LisaL Aug 2021 #139

That's true for people falling down the stairs too FBaggins Aug 2021 #142

First thing for them is to not panic. Renew Deal Aug 2021 #28

I am assuming the neighbor is elderly, since he needs to be taken care of. LisaL Aug 2021 #29

You can order an at-home test ONLINE pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #34

ITA. LisaL Aug 2021 #35

+1,000! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #42

He should call his doc or the hospital and ask what they want him to do. Since it sounds like he's brewens Aug 2021 #36

Your neighbor asked the wrong person.You. Your neighbor needs to call his doc post haste and ask Ninga Aug 2021 #39

Double mask and leave all the windows open WhiteTara Aug 2021 #41

No way, MF! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #43

Why does everyone want to expose the Uber and Lyft drivers who then risk exposing MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #48

Being exposed doesn't mean you have Covid. Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #75

15 minutes is old news. LisaL Aug 2021 #109

Have to consider WHEN this person was exposed, how they know they were exposed, Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #44

He should purchase one of the rapid tests that you do at home helpisontheway Aug 2021 #51

Why buy what is available for free? Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #54

Because he did not have a ride. Nt helpisontheway Aug 2021 #121

Since he later took his confirmed positive neighbor to the hospital Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #126

I would double mask, Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #52

Call an ambulance or medical transport STAT jmbar2 Aug 2021 #53

Seriously?? FBaggins Aug 2021 #78

OK, my bad jmbar2 Aug 2021 #79

I would do it /nt sarisataka Aug 2021 #56

Yes, if it is a good neighbor or friend. clutterbox1830 Aug 2021 #62

If you look after neighbor, you need to get a test, too. babylonsister Aug 2021 #68

Both of you masked (with an N95 if possible) windows down, back seat Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #77

And if your neighbor tests positive, what then? GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #81

This neighbor has a lots of "condition issues". He has Huntington's, he's been majorly ... marble falls Aug 2021 #87

I understand, GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #98

But you got yourself exposed in the process. LisaL Aug 2021 #103

may I ask, did you ever ask him before this if he had received the shots? Skittles Aug 2021 #183

What in the world? greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #203

And if he tests negative today because it's too soon... Renew Deal Aug 2021 #90

The home test gave him a hot positive. He's at the hospital, right now. marble falls Aug 2021 #94

Uh-oh! You were being careful and wearing your mask, right? FakeNoose Aug 2021 #119

Mask won't work well against delta unless its N95. LisaL Aug 2021 #135

You deserve credit for being a good person and putting yourself in danger to help your neighbor. Renew Deal Aug 2021 #144

Oh, Man... Jim G. Aug 2021 #88

Oh, man, wow blogslug Aug 2021 #89

As other people pointed out, you are likely infected unless you are JCMach1 Aug 2021 #93

Also, the time spend in a small enclosed area. LisaL Aug 2021 #140

Well someone on this forum just told me that if you're vaxxed then you're 99.99% safe. Treefrog Aug 2021 #100

That's a complete and utter nonsense. LisaL Aug 2021 #102

I know. I'll see if I can find the thread. Treefrog Aug 2021 #117

Probably based on the current CNN headine MissB Aug 2021 #127

Yeah, I believe that's regarding hospitalization, not infection. Treefrog Aug 2021 #129

Right MissB Aug 2021 #130

The whole thing is so frightening that it's easy to miss the details. Treefrog Aug 2021 #131

99.99% number doesn't sound correct for hospitalizations either. LisaL Aug 2021 #133

Have not had is not the same as will not have under the current circumstances. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #150

You did good. 634-5789 Aug 2021 #105

So he lied to you about getting vaxxed? LisaL Aug 2021 #108

I know, that jumped out to me as well. Treefrog Aug 2021 #132

Probably so OP felt safe helping him. LisaL Aug 2021 #134

Yes, but how wrong. Treefrog Aug 2021 #141

And like was suggested to OP numerous times, call an ambulance. LisaL Aug 2021 #173

Your wife is not pleased because now you have been exposed. LisaL Aug 2021 #112

I hoped you were double masked Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #118

Exactly. LisaL Aug 2021 #138

On the ride I hope you berated them for not getting vaxxed, repeatedly. ZonkerHarris Aug 2021 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Aug 2021 #143

I'll be crossing my fingers that you remain unaffected by covid MissB Aug 2021 #123

I would not have driven him to the hospital. Too dangerous. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #125

Depending on the neighbor, I probably would. Almost certainly. Treefrog Aug 2021 #145

You would have to live long enough to have future relationship. Same goes for the neighbor. LisaL Aug 2021 #147

VERY good point! Treefrog Aug 2021 #149

True, but the fact is I had the virus. I didn't die, nor was I hospitalized. Treefrog Aug 2021 #167

I am in a high risk category. LisaL Aug 2021 #171

I understand your feelings. Treefrog Aug 2021 #174

A darker view of this situation is... Renew Deal Aug 2021 #170

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #151

Get yourself tested, please. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2021 #157

Testing won't work right away. LisaL Aug 2021 #160

Current CDC recommendation for the vaccinated with close contact Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #195

We'll be tested next Monday. These are new and "exciting" times and what to do is not clear ... marble falls Aug 2021 #176

Test should turn positive in 4-5 days after exposure. LisaL Aug 2021 #180

I would test on Thursday LeftInTX Aug 2021 #187

That should be fine so long as you distance and don't manifest symptoms. herding cats Aug 2021 #193

Marble Falls, the current CDC guidelines for vaccinated people who have Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #196

Good luck GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #205

Statistically speaking, you should be fine but here's my kitchen sink routine ecstatic Aug 2021 #168

What are legume seeds? cally Aug 2021 #212

Man. I'm sorry Marble Falls... LeftInTX Aug 2021 #169

He lied to you about being vaxxed?! sakabatou Aug 2021 #172

Probably the last good deed you'll be doing for this guy ornotna Aug 2021 #175

Most people don't die, even un-vaxxed. LisaL Aug 2021 #177

I'm 75, have several serious underlying conditions, yet when I caught Covid last December I had a totodeinhere Aug 2021 #194

Vy glad, you must be in great health w good genes. appalachiablue Aug 2021 #219

Not a good idea Meowmee Aug 2021 #179

You've been a good neighbor XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #186

You're a decent person. Compassionate. Solly Mack Aug 2021 #189

you'll probably never see this post (the thread is so long) orleans Aug 2021 #210