Lying by Omission about Break-Thru Covid-19 Infections?

[bluewater]

94. "They are using the most current data they can - that's the point" No, they are not.

And that's the point om my OP post. The two news sources I cited in my OP post, AXIOS and NBC News, were citing statistics based on data that is months and months old.

Consider this from the OP:

Axios: Less than 0.1% of vaccinated Americans have been infected with COVID-19 and only 0.004% have been hospitalized.

That might be true, but it is misleading and does not give people an accurate view of the current risks.

Contrast that 0.004% hospitalization statistic with the recent statement made by Dr Fauci that hospialization rates for vaccinated people are actually much higher, around 4%. Here is one of the excellent posts a responder has made in this thread discussing this apparent contradiction:

Celerity (20,368 posts)

76. The only truly reliable data for ALL breakthrough infections of any sort in a group are the vax

long terms studies and trials. The best vax against Delta (Pfizer) data is showing that out of 100 fully vaxxed people, 20 or will have breakthrough infections, 12 of those 20 will be symptomatic, and 4 of those 20 will end up having to be hospitalised to some level.

Obviously there are studies (the infamous Israeli one for a perfect example) that show much lower effective rates (and also a decrease in effectiveness as time flows by) but I am going to focus on the highest, best results out there to avoid any perceived Cassandra-like behaviour emanating from my posts.

It is just ludicrous to say that out of 1,300 fully vaxxed people, ONE will have a breakthrough infection of any sort, yet here we are, with multiple posters on here claiming this utter bollocks.

NO vaccine firm has ever remotely claimed 99.9+% efficacy against infection. The highest of any widely available vax was 95% clinical trial efficacy (and 90% real world effectiveness) with Pfizer against the origin strain.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/delta-variant-what-we-know-about-the-efficacy-of-covid-vaccines/2427527/

Another study, cited by Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, suggests that

the Pfizer vaccine is approximately

80% effective against preventing infection from Delta

88% effective at preventing symptomatic disease and

96% effective at preventing hospitalizations caused by the virus

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/delta-coronavirus-variant.html

In closing, first let me say thanks for the discussion, but allow me to reply to one of your last comments:

If you think they should stop reporting at all because they don't have the statistics you want, then you'd deprive others of news they'd want.

Well, what I want is right now is for respected mainstream news sources, like Axios and NBC News, to stop reporting misleading statistics based on outdated data and report instead the current statistics that people like Dr Fauci are providing us. They are, after all _news_ sources, they have an obligation to stay as current as possible.

Thanks for a thoughtful discussion.