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20. "Left" and "Progressive" candidates should learn from India Walton. . .

Thu Aug 5, 2021, 10:13 AM

Aug 2021

. . .who won the Democratic primary for Mayor of Buffalo, NY back in June:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/24/opinion/india-walton-progressive.html

Walton is a woman with a working-class background and an inspiring personal story who knows how to make progressive ideas sound like common sense.

“The challenge of the left is that we use our jargony activist language and don’t take time to fully explain what we mean to those who may not be as ‘woke’ as we are.”

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This Democratic leader just went off on the 'woke' left [View all] brooklynite Aug 2021 OP

The Twitter/media intra-party battles amount to a suicide mission Raven123 Aug 2021 #1

+1 BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #7

And yet, people cheer AOC, et al when she goes after other Democrats StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #11

Jumping into each and every scrum is the opposite of leadership BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #12

Uh-huh StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #13

Blindness to giant, existential battles is the opposite of smart citizenship also. Hortensis Aug 2021 #134

Lol...You don't know Jeffries too well, do you? BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #136

His biggest fear people who want basically what he does?! Hortensis Aug 2021 #140

+1 JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #54

Yes, and they're "hippie punching" mcar Aug 2021 #114

Exactly.. like it's OK then but Cha Aug 2021 #124

What is a "hippie punch"? panader0 Aug 2021 #102

When people with power punch down at the powerless on the Left Sympthsical Aug 2021 #129

Thank you for pointing this out Bettie Aug 2021 #166

Yup... That 'they' (worst offenders) can't see this is inexplicable to me. hlthe2b Aug 2021 #16

. . . and fund-raising empedocles Aug 2021 #24

It's not "intra-party" if some of them don't even consider themselves Democrats robbedvoter Aug 2021 #48

The most disappointing thing about the Turner loss is her "trump-like" concession speech JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2

Maya has a lot of class WA-03 Democrat Aug 2021 #5

Without a doubt JohnSJ Aug 2021 #9

Yes. I believe Maya would have been an excellent mayor. Perhaps future elective office? hlthe2b Aug 2021 #17

'defund the police', does not need to be 'weaponized'. It is already a weapon - waiting to be fired empedocles Aug 2021 #26

Maya had a good chance. Once Our Revolution and such jumped in, she lost robbedvoter Aug 2021 #49

Exactly Tom Rinaldo Aug 2021 #8

Sorry, but Maya came in 3rd. Garcia wa second with 0.8% difference from Adams. robbedvoter Aug 2021 #50

Yup, I stand corrected Tom Rinaldo Aug 2021 #117

I don't know if I heard the whole thing, but in what I saw she didn't congratulate Brown.... George II Aug 2021 #79

Rep. Hakeem Jeffries is a member of the Progressive Caucus. OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #110

I'm sick of it too n/t WA-03 Democrat Aug 2021 #3

Yes! We need to support our dem leaders and stop with the arm chair comments!! PortTack Aug 2021 #51

Thank you.. as am I! Cha Aug 2021 #127

Eric Adams won with the support of working class people of color. nycbos Aug 2021 #4

I love Hakeem Jeffries StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #6

Yes, he knows how to work with people. He would be a great speaker JohnSJ Aug 2021 #10

He would be wonderful! WA-03 Democrat Aug 2021 #14

I hope he is mcar Aug 2021 #116

Never pay attention to anything after the words "extreme (or far) left" -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #15

Luz! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #19

Thanks for your thoughtful and well-reasoned response -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #44

You're very welcome. It matches perfectly the post to which I was responding. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #53

Well, reading comprehension isn't for everyone. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #57

Oh, honey! This has nothing to do with reading comprehension. I understood that post perfectly... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #60

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Only when it's deserved. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #87

I accept your concession, then. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #89

What a bizarre thing to say. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #92

Still no examples of the "far left" at all... -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #94

Ridiculous. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #98

Okay, so you can't respond substantively. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #104

Best of luck to you. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #120

LOL! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #153

Where do you get the idea that you have the right to set the terms mcar Aug 2021 #118

The same place from where you pulled whatever that was LOL -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #119

From you. LOL mcar Aug 2021 #121

Then you're welcome, I guess. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #122

DU is so lucky to have you here to give us all this sage advice mcar Aug 2021 #123

They've probably gotten by on your sarcasm. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #125

Aww, bless your heart mcar Aug 2021 #126

Who's the lyin' bastard that said I had a heart?! -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #128

OK now you made me laugh mcar Aug 2021 #144

Lots of laughs, eh? NurseJackie Aug 2021 #154

... mcar Aug 2021 #155

I thought your name is Jackie. Was that "Marcia" meant to be an insult? George II Aug 2021 #162

A more factual world would not have you diagnosing & critiqing others ... Budi Aug 2021 #75

No, I do live in a more factual world. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #81

If the word "far left" bothers you then how do you square that with your insulting words... Budi Aug 2021 #90

Your entire post is nonsense -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #97

Predictable it would end this way. Nothing left nor far left to say? Budi Aug 2021 #101

Actually her post makes excellent sense.. Cha Aug 2021 #132

No, it doesn't -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #137

YES It Made Perfect Sense to Me. Cha Aug 2021 #139

That's okay. -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #141

Don't tell me how i feel about it. Cha Aug 2021 #143

Really now, that poster surely deserves a "substantive reply"... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #157

Wikipedia.. "Far Left Politics".. Cha Aug 2021 #152

You might want to just leave this alone StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #80

Yeah, but I enjoy a good game of softball every now and then -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #82

I think you've missed the point StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #83

Back atcha! -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #86

Lobbing personal debasing insults via those who Do Have Disabilities is not acceptable, ... Budi Aug 2021 #93

Down to making up things about which to be insulted, eh? -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #95

Apparantly it does for you. Budi Aug 2021 #105

Well, Acting Civilly As This Board Requires Isn't For Everyone. Me. Aug 2021 #159

Wow! This how you address those with Actual 'reading comprehension' issues or learning disabilities? Budi Aug 2021 #73

Mouthy, aggressively acerbic noobs are enjoying a comeback at DU 11 Bravo Aug 2021 #106

Turner's OH-11 Flameout will resonate through social media FOREVER!! Budi Aug 2021 #107

How can we miss her if she refuses to go the fuck away? 11 Bravo Aug 2021 #108

Exactly! I don't know how anyone can rally behind her vile rage. Budi Aug 2021 #111

The slip certainly shows itself, doesn't it? n/m BradAllison Aug 2021 #160

Agreed. But likewise, ignore "establishment", "corporatist", etc. Mister Ed Aug 2021 #36

"In most cases" -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #46

last 30 years we let the right define what and who is too far left for america - using limbaugh and certainot Aug 2021 #43

excellent points. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #56

Very good points n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #59

Right again. Ligyron Aug 2021 #64

Absolutely right Bettie Aug 2021 #167

Wha'? George II Aug 2021 #68

Yeah, FDR would be defined as "extreme (or far) left" today Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #77

But "considered" doesn't mean "is" -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #84

Your loss.. Hakeem Jeffries is a great Democratic Leader.. Cha Aug 2021 #133

What loss is that? -misanthroptimist Aug 2021 #135

The "loos" is Hakeem Jeffries is exactly right.. he's Cha Aug 2021 #150

CNN has to stir the pot, it was only a matter of when Chris the Lizard would write a poke article Historic NY Aug 2021 #18

And Jeffries delivered for him today BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #22

Good On the Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries.. Cha Aug 2021 #151

Did you perhaps notice that this was a build on a NYT story? brooklynite Aug 2021 #23

"Left" and "Progressive" candidates should learn from India Walton. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2021 #20

There is more to the story of India Walton's primary win. wnylib Aug 2021 #37

Lt Gov Kathy Hochul may have something to say about that last item. DinahMoeHum Aug 2021 #65

For sure, Hochul will become governor if/when wnylib Aug 2021 #168

Yes, common sense, stop "jargony activist language." betsuni Aug 2021 #158

"The extreme left is obsessed with talking trash about mainstream Democrats on Twitter" WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #21

Hard to rationalize 'the passionate' trurner fiasco empedocles Aug 2021 #28

How was it a fiasco? WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #30

It was a bowl of shit. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #171

Nina Turner talks trash about Democrats. It's a fact. yardwork Aug 2021 #31

Oh huh sounded to me like Jeffries was calling out "liberals." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #33

Yes. StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #34

There's talking trash and there's criticism. And there's constructive critcism, and criticism for WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #55

Whether something is trash talking or constructive criticism is often in the eye of the beholder StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #63

We see what goes on on social media, we do not see the conversations in the hallways WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #66

I do know for a fact that a lot of the people who do this kind of "mobilizing" on social media StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #70

Fair enough. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #91

What a load of bullshit. Magoo48 Aug 2021 #25

No.. Democratic Leader Hakeem Jefferies does NOT talk Cha Aug 2021 #142

You are correct, and I call bullshit. Magoo48 Aug 2021 #170

No Hakeem is Correct! Cha Aug 2021 #174

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2021 #27

I agree with him. yardwork Aug 2021 #29

Funny how the "woke left" can go off all they want on fellow Democrats, but when anyone pushes back, StarfishSaver Aug 2021 #32

One might even call them snowflakes. yardwork Aug 2021 #76

+1 nt PunkinPi Aug 2021 #109

Hakeem Jeffries is exactly right.. some just don't Cha Aug 2021 #147

Generational tension rears uts ugly head Warpy Aug 2021 #35

And yet, the Progressive Caucus has 95 members, who will not be ignored Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #38

Not to worry. aocommunalpunch Aug 2021 #39

We shall see - it will only take 6 members of the Progressive Caucus to kill the bipartisan bill Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #45

+1 CentralMass Aug 2021 #58

+2 Celerity Aug 2021 #96

As I noted upthread, Rep. Jeffries is a member of the Progressive Caucus. OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #115

I refer you back to my original comment Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #131

Shamed into compliance? Good grief. OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #138

95 members of the PC is not a "tiny minority " Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #156

And how many of those 95 disagree with Rep. Jeffries? OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #163

The point will be made when the bipartisan bill does/does not come to the floor for a vote. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #164

Pretty sure you got that completely backwards. MrsCoffee Aug 2021 #172

It is a matter of opinion but looking at the last two presidential election CentralMass Aug 2021 #40

A matter of opinion . . . people Aug 2021 #52

I'm not sure the word "woke" is being used here properly Sympthsical Aug 2021 #41

Well said. CentralMass Aug 2021 #169

K&R betsuni Aug 2021 #42

I remember when Amy Schumer had to apologize... LiberatedUSA Aug 2021 #47

"woke left" is not the same as the extreme left; "woke left" is much larger. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #61

Totally agree with Hakeem BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #62

I can't wait to see him wielding the Speaker's gavel. George II Aug 2021 #67

Hakeem's Rahm Emmanuel moment. KPN Aug 2021 #71

Silly. David__77 Aug 2021 #74

No, Hakeem Jeffries is Not "silly".. he dead on. Cha Aug 2021 #149

Not buying the trash talk either way h2ebits Aug 2021 #78

Eric Adams was on Bill Maher last week. He's SUPER impressive. I can definitely see him running beaglelover Aug 2021 #88

The extreme left has ALWAYS been obsessed with talking trash about mainstream Democrats. Hortensis Aug 2021 #99

+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #161

The Twitter left isn't reality iemanja Aug 2021 #100

K&R PunkinPi Aug 2021 #103

Wake up Hakeem. The polar ice caps are melting and folks outside your bubble are concerned. jalan48 Aug 2021 #112

The Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries is quite AWAKE.. he supported Shontl Brown! Cha Aug 2021 #145

He is correct mcar Aug 2021 #113

Turner is just, Deminpenn Aug 2021 #130

What?.. Cha Aug 2021 #146

Outre' Deminpenn Aug 2021 #173

Hakeem Jeffries is Correct! Cha Aug 2021 #175

Bad headline TheFarseer Aug 2021 #148

Here's Hakeem Welcoming Shontel Brown Cha Aug 2021 #165

It depends on who we're talking about. "Far-left" like AOC and the Squad actually accomplish things Tarc Aug 2021 #176