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In reply to the discussion: Ermagerd!!!! Lets all mock those with speech impediments! Yay! [View all]flamingdem
(40,856 posts)74. Women are the biggest linguistic trendsetters.
http://www.themarysue.com/women-change-language/
We all know that language changes pretty fast. Dictionaries, while useful reference materials, arent what language is derived from, but merely a blurry snapshot of an ever changing lexicographical landscape. Who pushes most of that change? Who appears to be on the cutting edge of significant, lasting, and eventually socially widespread changes in inflection and diction?
Young women, according to a lot of linguists.
Most of the vocal trends we associate with young women, like uptalk (ending declarative sentences as if they were questions), using like as a pause word rather than as a verb or preposition, or the infamous vocal fry (ending a sentence with a deep dip in tone) are associated with immaturity or even stupidity, as the New York Times puts it. But linguists know: the living evolution of communication doesnt make a lot of stupid choices. Says Nassima Abdelli-Beruh, author of the internet-infamous vocal fry study: They use this as a tool to convey something. You quickly realize that for them, it is as a cue.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that if linguists observe trends in language change, theyre going to find the youth of the culture at the forefront of it. But linguists have also found the women tend to be half a generation ahead of males on average, according to Dr. Mark Liberman of the University of Pennsylvania, and that doesnt mean that the change stays there.
We all know that language changes pretty fast. Dictionaries, while useful reference materials, arent what language is derived from, but merely a blurry snapshot of an ever changing lexicographical landscape. Who pushes most of that change? Who appears to be on the cutting edge of significant, lasting, and eventually socially widespread changes in inflection and diction?
Young women, according to a lot of linguists.
Most of the vocal trends we associate with young women, like uptalk (ending declarative sentences as if they were questions), using like as a pause word rather than as a verb or preposition, or the infamous vocal fry (ending a sentence with a deep dip in tone) are associated with immaturity or even stupidity, as the New York Times puts it. But linguists know: the living evolution of communication doesnt make a lot of stupid choices. Says Nassima Abdelli-Beruh, author of the internet-infamous vocal fry study: They use this as a tool to convey something. You quickly realize that for them, it is as a cue.
It should come as no surprise to anyone that if linguists observe trends in language change, theyre going to find the youth of the culture at the forefront of it. But linguists have also found the women tend to be half a generation ahead of males on average, according to Dr. Mark Liberman of the University of Pennsylvania, and that doesnt mean that the change stays there.
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What it is is a good-natured ribbing of tween enthusiasm, which is something almost everyone has
Brickbat
Oct 2012
#26
Know your memes. People sound like that four the first four days when they get retainers.
Brickbat
Oct 2012
#15
It's stuff like this that gives the term "politically correct" a bad name.
Liberal Veteran
Oct 2012
#22
To know the difference between humor and derision, one must remove the pancake from one's head.
Liberal Veteran
Oct 2012
#31
This thread is the epitome of why some people will never take liberals seriously. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Oct 2012
#39
To be fair, the poster said this represents why liberals aren't taken seriously.
Hosnon
Oct 2012
#82