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HariSeldon

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64. Yeah, a right to healthcare until...

Sun Aug 8, 2021, 01:33 PM

Aug 2021

...the person's antisocial choices are putting their healthcare needs in contention with the healthcare needs of others who are looking out for the good of their community by vaccinating. Hoping, wishing, praying, and humane intentions do not increase the number of available, staffed beds in the community.

I'll be damned if I say that it's fair to give an anti-vaxxer a bed my too-young-to-vaccinate son needs (if his exposure in a masked setting does lead to infection with serious symptoms). Their decisions are also generally exhausting the "surge" capacity of the medical community -- the extra shifts, canceled vacations, willingness to stay isolated from family, etc. -- and then what if a variant arises that truly threatens the vaccinated?

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Dealing w/ the spouse of a patient who refuses to believe wife has COVID [View all] JoanofArgh Aug 2021 OP

"Never wake to regret it." secondwind Aug 2021 #1

I feel the same way. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #3

Yep, no more pity left for them.. ananda Aug 2021 #5

For the innocents they infect, area51 Aug 2021 #11

I know we're not supposed ta make fun of 'em, 3Hotdogs Aug 2021 #36

I'm With You, Second Wind COL Mustard Aug 2021 #73

My pity bag... mgardener Aug 2021 #88

I am a nurse and could not agree more. And OMG pOx of 9 😳 Murphyb849 Aug 2021 #2

I know right? Back before the vaccine was available, JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #4

Pulse oximeters are ridiculously cheap on Amazon Zorro Aug 2021 #62

That's where I got it! cheap and works great. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #63

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At first I thought the 9% was a typo PatSeg Aug 2021 #30

I'll bet many of the freshly dead have SpO2 readings of 9! Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #57

Good God! Ten years ago I briefly had a pOx of 84 rsdsharp Aug 2021 #58

About 10 years ago cannabis_flower Aug 2021 #82

I was breathing rapidly and heavily. I just wasn't getting enough O2. rsdsharp Aug 2021 #85

I was diagnosed with copd & congestive heart failure in 2010 Whatthe_Firetruck Aug 2021 #87

Oh, man I'm sorry. 88-90 is not good. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #101

9%? Amazing. Pure chance she didn't die before she got to the hospital. Raven123 Aug 2021 #6

"COVID denial didn't pop up out of thin air." KS Toronado Aug 2021 #7

Born stupid and dying even more stupider thanks to the Historic NY Aug 2021 #8

Twitter replies: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #9

I doubt she is functioning at 9%. LisaL Aug 2021 #17

I do not care about these people. They deny covid exists. I deny that THEY exist. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #10

All human beings are deserving of medical care. milestogo Aug 2021 #12

At some point, anti-vaxxer's are contributing to the destruction of OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #19

This!👆 SheltieLover Aug 2021 #20

And they can get the religious quacks to pray over them while they die SouthernDem4ever Aug 2021 #24

Give them a tub of ivermectin to eat and UV lights up their butt. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #26

Insurance companies and medicare radical noodle Aug 2021 #37

I've expected to see health insurance companies announce rate increases for liberalla Aug 2021 #44

Apparently not fooled Aug 2021 #45

That makes sense. I hope the approval comes quickly. liberalla Aug 2021 #49

That would put a financial burden Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #61

Assuming they have insurance. Demobrat Aug 2021 #69

The post I responded to said Medicare Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #70

In three to four weeks DENVERPOPS Aug 2021 #81

Noem and SD hosted this super spreader event. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #91

Totally agree. Time to put your wallet where your mouth is. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #90

Post of the day! jmbar2 Aug 2021 #51

Well said. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #92

+1 Celerity Aug 2021 #56

Yeah, anti- vaxxers are horrible deadly people but Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #22

Yeah, a right to healthcare until... HariSeldon Aug 2021 #64

Yeah, I agree they are endangering everyone else. Farmer-Rick Aug 2021 #80

My niece is a 33 YO ICU nurse at a major ME hospital. She now has 2 kids and she is wondering OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #93

Maybe we should consider anti-vaccine people to be opting for Euthanasia? plimsoll Aug 2021 #77

Yes, I agree PatSeg Aug 2021 #35

That only works if medical resources are infinite HariSeldon Aug 2021 #65

There are no easy answers PatSeg Aug 2021 #75

I don't think they should be turned away at the hospital door but Demobrat Aug 2021 #67

I agree, and I continue to believe mrsadm Aug 2021 #39

I have to get a breast biopsy next week róisín_dubh Aug 2021 #95

Been there. Good luck! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #99

Insanity. Sad and maddening. Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #13

Kick for visibility. yardwork Aug 2021 #14

COVID Roulette. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #15

9 percent is mind blowing. There has been a significant dewsgirl Aug 2021 #16

This thread just made me check my O2 level, gab13by13 Aug 2021 #18

The intubation did not emerge. It was an emergency intubation, not emergent. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2021 #21

Again, the nurse did not take the Hippocratic oath. That is doctors. TNNurse Aug 2021 #23

I also doubt she is going to make it. LisaL Aug 2021 #25

Our goal is to prevent this cult from bringing us all down. Jon King Aug 2021 #27

And once again hospital beds are filling up, including pediatric wings. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #28

Governors who have banned mask mandates or discouraged vaccination efforts crickets Aug 2021 #68

Stage 5 yes. Whenever I see a store employee in a mask, I thank them. catrose Aug 2021 #71

Republican/Nazis are some real dumb shits and I hope a lot of them die. But that's just me. johnthewoodworker Aug 2021 #29

At this point they are destroying our climate and health and democracy. Jon King Aug 2021 #32

I agree, I can't care much about these deaths HariSeldon Aug 2021 #66

Why are there no consequences for evil people who spread misinformation? Mysterian Aug 2021 #31

Suicide by stupidity. An emerging diagnosis. FailureToCommunicate Aug 2021 #33

The bad example. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #34

Because they believe his recovery is a "miracle from god" and not due to the VIP drugs he got nt maryellen99 Aug 2021 #43

For many, belief 'trumps' (sorry) truth. Kid Berwyn Aug 2021 #50

K & R...for visibility...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2021 #38

GOP leading its own base to slaughter to create division and chaos. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #40

And if this is what they do for their supporters NJCher Aug 2021 #96

Exactly. They are killing American citizens by the thousands and not blinking an eye. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #100

None of those people in positions of great influence will ever be held accountable. patphil Aug 2021 #41

A friend of mine just passed the national Paramedics exam. She has already been hired. usaf-vet Aug 2021 #42

That is a very relevant t- shirt. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #46

+ 1000 NJCher Aug 2021 #98

Husband probably has COVID too IronLionZion Aug 2021 #47

That's pretty much a given. LisaL Aug 2021 #48

Stop taking up space!!! Traildogbob Aug 2021 #52

What he really means is he doesn't want Covid on her death certificate. dalton99a Aug 2021 #53

This virus is not playing around Pas-de-Calais Aug 2021 #54

Violently in denial. Celerity Aug 2021 #55

Nine Percent GB_RN Aug 2021 #59

For me, the saddest part of the story perfessor Aug 2021 #60

Good. Fuck him. Orrex Aug 2021 #74

Kick....n/t Upthevibe Aug 2021 #76

I'm sorry sir. She is dying of IQ deficiency. We don't have a vaccine for that yet. Shoeless Louis Aug 2021 #78

is this a joke? Skittles Aug 2021 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Aug 2021 #83

She is someone who would not receive intensive care in a military field hospital during war. roamer65 Aug 2021 #84

There is no guarantee the hospital coulc have saved her Warpy Aug 2021 #86

Meanwhile he was/is a super spreader. Nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #89

he's feeling guilty... needs it NOT to be COVID Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #94

If the husband isn't an accessory before the fact to his wife's murder DFW Aug 2021 #97