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Ocelot II

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17. I'm not sure natural selection will weed out this particular brand of idiocy.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:21 AM
Aug 2021

I wonder whether the trait of ignoring science for political or ideological or tribal reasons is inheritable. If it is, the trait will persist just because so many of the anti-vaxxers have already reproduced. However, I question whether the type of stupid that causes some people to prefer rumors and conspiracy theories that reinforce their existing suppositions about the socialist government forcing them to do things they don't want to do is genetic. There is research suggesting that conservatives are more fearful than liberals, https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201612/fear-and-anxiety-drive-conservatives-political-attitudes - although this theory has been questioned, https://www.livescience.com/conservatives-not-more-fearful-than-liberals.html - because it appears that conservatives aren't necessarily more fearful than liberals, only that they are afraid of different things. And, the author suggests, it might be that people adopt a political identity first and then fear certain specific things as a result.

Fearfulness in general is probably an inheritable trait. But people who won't get vaccinated don't fear covid, or at least not enough, even though they should (like the caveman fighting off a lion with a stick), but they fear the vaccine. Why? It's not because they are fearful in general, but perhaps it's because their political identity has motivated them to fear the vaccine more than the disease. Arguably this is just plain stupid, but is it low-IQ stupid? Probably not. I'd posit that it's a learned stupidity (and here I define "stupid" not as developmentally disabled in some way, but as willfully ignorant) arising from rigid political identity. It's a social disease, not a genetic one.

But even so, if the 'rona kills off enough of these morons to keep the GOP from winning elections I will be satisfied that their karma has run over their dogma.

Good thing they don't believe in evolution Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #1
Natural selection, for sure. Evolution? Maybe... targetpractice Aug 2021 #2
It's not instantaneous, but over multiple generations, the stupid gradually kill off their lines... lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #6
Didn't you watch Idiocracy? Probatim Aug 2021 #23
Yeah - that's one way to do it - have 10 kids; won't matter if 5 of them die of stupidity. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #25
Those 5 have 10 of their own and so on - it's a winning strategy for global collapse. Probatim Aug 2021 #27
Natural Selection Is the Engine That Drives Evolution. MineralMan Aug 2021 #11
Of course.... I wrote that. targetpractice Aug 2021 #18
I'm wondering, for a highly social species, can we consider two types of inheritance: DNA, and lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #36
I think most definitely... You are correct. targetpractice Aug 2021 #42
I imagine the bigger picture of inheritance includes both factors. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #43
That's exactly how I think about it... targetpractice Aug 2021 #45
The Fight-Flight-Freeze response. These fools are froze njhoneybadger Aug 2021 #3
And I should care malaise Aug 2021 #4
Let me think about that.... MineralMan Aug 2021 #12
Nature won't abhor this vacuum malaise Aug 2021 #14
Insert drum sting here OMGWTF Aug 2021 #37
I've been referring to this as a "pandumbic". Initech Aug 2021 #5
I think the congressional districts should be redrawn based on... Hugin Aug 2021 #8
When this started, I asked a colleague how the electoral map would compare to cases per 100k. Probatim Aug 2021 #26
LOL! lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #16
DAYUM that's good! "Pandumbic"! calimary Aug 2021 #28
I came up with that term after seeing just story after story of stupid people... Initech Aug 2021 #30
I'm stealing that malaise Aug 2021 #39
My problem with the whole killing off your constituents.. Hugin Aug 2021 #7
I've stopped caring about them. No more fucks to give. Not one iota of guilt about it. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #9
The only reason I care has to do with children too young for the vaccination. MineralMan Aug 2021 #15
Yes he is. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #35
It is more about H2O Man Aug 2021 #10
Raw intelligence has genetic roots, as well. MineralMan Aug 2021 #13
True. H2O Man Aug 2021 #20
Anthropology 101. multigraincracker Aug 2021 #24
Right. H2O Man Aug 2021 #44
I'm not sure natural selection will weed out this particular brand of idiocy. Ocelot II Aug 2021 #17
I too will be satisfied that their karma has run over their dogma! calimary Aug 2021 #31
From the Hoarse Whisperer LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #19
I am SO with this by now. Sick and tired of these jerks. calimary Aug 2021 #34
As serious as the pandemic is, even with over 600,000 dead so far in this country, PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #21
As pleasant as that sounds .. SarcasticSatyr Aug 2021 #22
Human evolution favors groups working together Auggie Aug 2021 #29
Darwin always wins this battle liberal N proud Aug 2021 #32
People who need to be thinned from the herd. OMGWTF Aug 2021 #33
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #38
Evolution left them behind long ago. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2021 #41
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