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phleshdef

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44. LOL, right because your SSN and your credit card number isn't ALREADY on a mixture of government....

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:58 AM

Jan 2012

...and bank databases.

The government has your social security number and I imagine you had to provide that social security number in order to get a credit card or bank account, so whoever you have that with has your credit card number and your social security number together. And that information is already tied in with all the major credit reporting agencies.

If you don't want to be in the system, you better close your bank account, burn your credit cards and stop applying for... well anything. The fact is, if the government was using computers when you were born, then your SSN has ALWAYS been in the system. And if not, then it went into the system whenever they started moving to digital formats for SSN related information.

"Skynet" is already aware of it all, and theres absolutely nothing you can do about it.

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Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans [View all] Baclava Jan 2012 OP

It's going to be hard to live without the internet Autumn Jan 2012 #1

There is no way I'm letting Skynet become aware of my SSN and credit card number. Baclava Jan 2012 #14

LOL, right because your SSN and your credit card number isn't ALREADY on a mixture of government.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #44

Resistence is Futile DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #63

More corporate welfare. What could go wrong? nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #2

Then you don't get one Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #3

Sure, no more than they're forced to have a phone or a car... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15

I could see companies liking this for internet purchases/payments Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #23

Right now I have the convenience of them without needing a govt ID. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #32

A new type of manditory ID like this would make that much harder Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #34

I buy things on the Internet and choose for myself who I trust with that information. There is sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #45

Hmm, is someone Dokkie Jan 2012 #85

A Somalia in America? MrCoffee Jan 2012 #100

It might not be forced but if you don't have one will you lose access to important things? limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17

Those informal requirements are already required to access many thing on the internet.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #52

and CAC cards for all Solly Mack Jan 2012 #4

Then you're a terrorist, or a bad netizen. Zalatix Jan 2012 #5

"offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions" Baclava Jan 2012 #18

It won't stop there. No way, no how. Zalatix Jan 2012 #20

In "Max Headroom" they were called Blanks. eShirl Jan 2012 #29

I'm old enough AND geeky enough to remember Max - and your clip is perfect! nt cyberpj Jan 2012 #109

Yea, and then Obama will make everyone take his mark, 666 ya know. phleshdef Jan 2012 #53

such shallow hyperbole paulk Jan 2012 #97

No, the kind of shit being bloviated in this thread is about the intellectual equivalent of that. phleshdef Jan 2012 #98

and you've argued that point so well paulk Jan 2012 #99

I don't post to impress you. I could care less if you think I'm making a powerful argument. phleshdef Jan 2012 #101

another completely shallow post paulk Jan 2012 #105

No skin off mine. phleshdef Jan 2012 #107

Good. So when they steal your identity, they really get a windfall Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #6

The audaciousness of the lies is a reason for serious concern. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #40

That won't work. Hackers will steal 'em, quick as a wink. MADem Jan 2012 #7

One password for all accounts belonging to a single user. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #8

Fantastic JJW Jan 2012 #9

Well as long as it's not a repub doing it it must be A-OK! nt Skip Intro Jan 2012 #10

Yep! n/t Earth_First Jan 2012 #27

Funny how that works, isn't it? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #68

frightening too Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #76

! City Lights Jan 2012 #70

Damn, please stop with the big brother bullshit Obama administration quinnox Jan 2012 #11

This sounds like a subset to the awful SOPA legislation DJ13 Jan 2012 #12

It's going to suck. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #13

"people can be held accountable for what they do online" like writing things the gov't doesn't like. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #25

There will be a hack, there always is Champion Jack Jan 2012 #16

What geniuses came up with this brilliant idea? eShirl Jan 2012 #19

Sounds like a brain-child of No Such Agency. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #66

WTF? Odin2005 Jan 2012 #21

He damn well better be "eyeing" it thru crosshairs. n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #22

"identity ecosystem" Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #24

Fucking doublespeak. I hate it. Matariki Jan 2012 #26

I can't wait for my credit tubes to come in the mail Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #28

Another step towards TOTAL Control. RC Jan 2012 #30

There already is a usage charge for the internet and its bundled into the bill you pay your ISP. phleshdef Jan 2012 #54

This is on top of that, yet RC Jan 2012 #71

The differences in how ISPs charge their customers is irrelevant. phleshdef Jan 2012 #80

"What if I don't want one?" Occulus Jan 2012 #31

But, but, but... He's better than the other guys. RC Jan 2012 #33

Not by much, he isn't. nt SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #69

And that is the problem RC Jan 2012 #72

I agree. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #73

No! nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #35

Too angry to express what I am thinking now. woo me with science Jan 2012 #36

Awesome! It just keeps getting better and better! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #37

I call 24601 LetTimmySmoke Jan 2012 #38

ugh woolldog Jan 2012 #39

Potter Stewart, where are you? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #92

Umm hell no! This is a backdoor National ID, this time being pushed by big media JCMach1 Jan 2012 #41

Um no, its not a backdoor to a national ID, at all. phleshdef Jan 2012 #50

I would really like to keep my privacy thanks without the government intruding online... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #65

What you just said is almost as illogical as "keep your government hands off my Medicare". phleshdef Jan 2012 #78

And then the next step ... lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #42

is this someone trying to turn ppl against Obama? RainDog Jan 2012 #43

This would cause some to turn against him? As Rahm Emanuel said, where else are they going to go? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #91

Freudian Post O' The Month! KamaAina Jan 2012 #106

That's from unblock. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #110

I'm sorry but the ridiculous replies in this thread are just AWESOME. phleshdef Jan 2012 #46

So then, what's the problem?? Leave the internet alone. Many people pay to have their numbers NOT sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #47

LOL. You think unlisting your number hides it from the government? phleshdef Jan 2012 #48

It's clear you are okay with government surveillance. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #51

No. I just don't support people pretending like this provides... phleshdef Jan 2012 #57

Sabrina, the NSA has everything right now. The ID they are talking about cant go beyond "everything" stevenleser Jan 2012 #103

I know sadly, that things have gone so far there is little privacy left. I would like to see an sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #111

Well, for starters... stevenleser Jan 2012 #112

It's about commerce, not govt n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #56

You can't do commerce NOW over the internet without a credit card. phleshdef Jan 2012 #60

which you can change at will n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #61

So? You still have to provide a social security number to whoever you get a card with... phleshdef Jan 2012 #62

okay RainDog Jan 2012 #64

You conveniently didn't quote "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," phleshdef Jan 2012 #49

Why is it even being discussed?? If anyone can opt out, then what's the point? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #55

Its probably being discussed because it would make things a lot more convenient. phleshdef Jan 2012 #58

Shill much for Agent Mike? L0oniX Jan 2012 #79

Shill much for people who have no clue what they are talking about? phleshdef Jan 2012 #81

Loonix, see my 103 stevenleser Jan 2012 #104

LOL...getting rid of remembering so many passwords is how they're selling it? TransitJohn Jan 2012 #59

I wonder how up to date their computers are lunatica Jan 2012 #67

Siri in the sky with drones ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #74

NO. Just no. alarimer Jan 2012 #75

"enhancing online security and privacy" ...privacy for who? L0oniX Jan 2012 #77

Well, of course he is. woo me with science Jan 2012 #82

No thanks Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #83

Thousands of elderly being ripped off, daily Sheepshank Jan 2012 #84

Most elderly people are not online. So how would this stop them from being scammed? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #86

If you think the trend is that those numbers of elderly on line won't be increasing.... Sheepshank Jan 2012 #93

Again, how will this help anyone online? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

good lord Sheepshank Jan 2012 #96

I See Now Why He STudied COnstitutional Law fascisthunter Jan 2012 #87

This is disgusting. aquart Jan 2012 #88

Anyone want to buy a computer, cheap? 99Forever Jan 2012 #89

I've changed my mind. President Obama, you, the MIC, and the int'l corps are doing a great job. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #90

"Enhancing security" my sweet patootee! aquarius venus Jan 2012 #94

make way for our chinese masters, heard stories of people needing an internet id to twitter etc. dembotoz Jan 2012 #102

Did Thawte or Verisign give him a huge donation or something???? Taverner Jan 2012 #108

Sounds scary. And when a hacker gets your ID, you lose all protection... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #113