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phleshdef

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57. No. I just don't support people pretending like this provides...

Thu Jan 12, 2012, 02:32 AM

Jan 2012

...some sort of additional means of surveillance that doesn't already exist.

Its also very apparent that you have no clue whats actually being proposed. And not just you. A lot of the other knee jerk reactors in this thread as well, going off about conspiratorial batshit loony stuff that is about as intellectually valuable as "rapture" nonsense.

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Obama Eyeing Internet ID for Americans [View all] Baclava Jan 2012 OP

It's going to be hard to live without the internet Autumn Jan 2012 #1

There is no way I'm letting Skynet become aware of my SSN and credit card number. Baclava Jan 2012 #14

LOL, right because your SSN and your credit card number isn't ALREADY on a mixture of government.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #44

Resistence is Futile DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #63

More corporate welfare. What could go wrong? nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #2

Then you don't get one Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #3

Sure, no more than they're forced to have a phone or a car... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15

I could see companies liking this for internet purchases/payments Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #23

Right now I have the convenience of them without needing a govt ID. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #32

A new type of manditory ID like this would make that much harder Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #34

I buy things on the Internet and choose for myself who I trust with that information. There is sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #45

Hmm, is someone Dokkie Jan 2012 #85

A Somalia in America? MrCoffee Jan 2012 #100

It might not be forced but if you don't have one will you lose access to important things? limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #17

Those informal requirements are already required to access many thing on the internet.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #52

and CAC cards for all Solly Mack Jan 2012 #4

Then you're a terrorist, or a bad netizen. Zalatix Jan 2012 #5

"offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions" Baclava Jan 2012 #18

It won't stop there. No way, no how. Zalatix Jan 2012 #20

In "Max Headroom" they were called Blanks. eShirl Jan 2012 #29

I'm old enough AND geeky enough to remember Max - and your clip is perfect! nt cyberpj Jan 2012 #109

Yea, and then Obama will make everyone take his mark, 666 ya know. phleshdef Jan 2012 #53

such shallow hyperbole paulk Jan 2012 #97

No, the kind of shit being bloviated in this thread is about the intellectual equivalent of that. phleshdef Jan 2012 #98

and you've argued that point so well paulk Jan 2012 #99

I don't post to impress you. I could care less if you think I'm making a powerful argument. phleshdef Jan 2012 #101

another completely shallow post paulk Jan 2012 #105

No skin off mine. phleshdef Jan 2012 #107

Good. So when they steal your identity, they really get a windfall Duer 157099 Jan 2012 #6

The audaciousness of the lies is a reason for serious concern. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #40

That won't work. Hackers will steal 'em, quick as a wink. MADem Jan 2012 #7

One password for all accounts belonging to a single user. Dawson Leery Jan 2012 #8

Fantastic JJW Jan 2012 #9

Well as long as it's not a repub doing it it must be A-OK! nt Skip Intro Jan 2012 #10

Yep! n/t Earth_First Jan 2012 #27

Funny how that works, isn't it? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #68

frightening too Puzzledtraveller Jan 2012 #76

! City Lights Jan 2012 #70

Damn, please stop with the big brother bullshit Obama administration quinnox Jan 2012 #11

This sounds like a subset to the awful SOPA legislation DJ13 Jan 2012 #12

It's going to suck. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #13

"people can be held accountable for what they do online" like writing things the gov't doesn't like. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #25

There will be a hack, there always is Champion Jack Jan 2012 #16

What geniuses came up with this brilliant idea? eShirl Jan 2012 #19

Sounds like a brain-child of No Such Agency. n/t gkhouston Jan 2012 #66

WTF? Odin2005 Jan 2012 #21

He damn well better be "eyeing" it thru crosshairs. n/t LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #22

"identity ecosystem" Adsos Letter Jan 2012 #24

Fucking doublespeak. I hate it. Matariki Jan 2012 #26

I can't wait for my credit tubes to come in the mail Canuckistanian Jan 2012 #28

Another step towards TOTAL Control. RC Jan 2012 #30

There already is a usage charge for the internet and its bundled into the bill you pay your ISP. phleshdef Jan 2012 #54

This is on top of that, yet RC Jan 2012 #71

The differences in how ISPs charge their customers is irrelevant. phleshdef Jan 2012 #80

"What if I don't want one?" Occulus Jan 2012 #31

But, but, but... He's better than the other guys. RC Jan 2012 #33

Not by much, he isn't. nt SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #69

And that is the problem RC Jan 2012 #72

I agree. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #73

No! nt Deep13 Jan 2012 #35

Too angry to express what I am thinking now. woo me with science Jan 2012 #36

Awesome! It just keeps getting better and better! whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #37

I call 24601 LetTimmySmoke Jan 2012 #38

ugh woolldog Jan 2012 #39

Potter Stewart, where are you? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #92

Umm hell no! This is a backdoor National ID, this time being pushed by big media JCMach1 Jan 2012 #41

Um no, its not a backdoor to a national ID, at all. phleshdef Jan 2012 #50

I would really like to keep my privacy thanks without the government intruding online... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #65

What you just said is almost as illogical as "keep your government hands off my Medicare". phleshdef Jan 2012 #78

And then the next step ... lpbk2713 Jan 2012 #42

is this someone trying to turn ppl against Obama? RainDog Jan 2012 #43

This would cause some to turn against him? As Rahm Emanuel said, where else are they going to go? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #91

Freudian Post O' The Month! KamaAina Jan 2012 #106

That's from unblock. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #110

I'm sorry but the ridiculous replies in this thread are just AWESOME. phleshdef Jan 2012 #46

So then, what's the problem?? Leave the internet alone. Many people pay to have their numbers NOT sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #47

LOL. You think unlisting your number hides it from the government? phleshdef Jan 2012 #48

It's clear you are okay with government surveillance. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #51

No. I just don't support people pretending like this provides... phleshdef Jan 2012 #57

Sabrina, the NSA has everything right now. The ID they are talking about cant go beyond "everything" stevenleser Jan 2012 #103

I know sadly, that things have gone so far there is little privacy left. I would like to see an sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #111

Well, for starters... stevenleser Jan 2012 #112

It's about commerce, not govt n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #56

You can't do commerce NOW over the internet without a credit card. phleshdef Jan 2012 #60

which you can change at will n/t RainDog Jan 2012 #61

So? You still have to provide a social security number to whoever you get a card with... phleshdef Jan 2012 #62

okay RainDog Jan 2012 #64

You conveniently didn't quote "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," phleshdef Jan 2012 #49

Why is it even being discussed?? If anyone can opt out, then what's the point? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #55

Its probably being discussed because it would make things a lot more convenient. phleshdef Jan 2012 #58

Shill much for Agent Mike? L0oniX Jan 2012 #79

Shill much for people who have no clue what they are talking about? phleshdef Jan 2012 #81

Loonix, see my 103 stevenleser Jan 2012 #104

LOL...getting rid of remembering so many passwords is how they're selling it? TransitJohn Jan 2012 #59

I wonder how up to date their computers are lunatica Jan 2012 #67

Siri in the sky with drones ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #74

NO. Just no. alarimer Jan 2012 #75

"enhancing online security and privacy" ...privacy for who? L0oniX Jan 2012 #77

Well, of course he is. woo me with science Jan 2012 #82

No thanks Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #83

Thousands of elderly being ripped off, daily Sheepshank Jan 2012 #84

Most elderly people are not online. So how would this stop them from being scammed? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #86

If you think the trend is that those numbers of elderly on line won't be increasing.... Sheepshank Jan 2012 #93

Again, how will this help anyone online? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

good lord Sheepshank Jan 2012 #96

I See Now Why He STudied COnstitutional Law fascisthunter Jan 2012 #87

This is disgusting. aquart Jan 2012 #88

Anyone want to buy a computer, cheap? 99Forever Jan 2012 #89

I've changed my mind. President Obama, you, the MIC, and the int'l corps are doing a great job. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #90

"Enhancing security" my sweet patootee! aquarius venus Jan 2012 #94

make way for our chinese masters, heard stories of people needing an internet id to twitter etc. dembotoz Jan 2012 #102

Did Thawte or Verisign give him a huge donation or something???? Taverner Jan 2012 #108

Sounds scary. And when a hacker gets your ID, you lose all protection... Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #113