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In reply to the discussion: "Osama bin Laden will never walk on this earth again" is the rhetoric we want to represent us? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)34. Better:
What was done right this year?
Posted by Heather Hurlburt
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2. Finding its feet on human rights. Few will have noticed even among the wonk-erati, but from institutionalizing government procedures for catching potential genocides in advance, focusing on women's role in international peace and security and improving Pentagon training on human rights, the Administration put several long-fought initiatives into place this year. Secretary Clinton's LGBT initiatives only got noticed at home when conservatives tried to make political hay out of the radical idea that sexual orientation should not be a death sentence; her speech that accompanied the women's initiative in December didn't even get that much attention. but in the rest of the world, where sexual and gender violence are all-too prevalent, and three women were among the Nobel Prize winners, this kind of US leadership will matter. The relevance of the US intervention in Libya for human rights will be debated for decades; what should be remem bered is how it also allowed a UN Security council-backed mission to remove a sore election loser in Cote d'Ivoire and end developing carnage.
3. South Sudan. That the new nation was able to come into existence successfully, and relatively quietly, this year is due in no small part to the Administration's interventions at the UN and on the ground.
4. Iraq troop withdrawal. Not so long ago, this didn't seem a foregone conclusion at all.
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6. Decline of Al Qaeda. US military actions, including but not limited to the killing of Bin Laden, have hastened the organization's decline and its loss of support among the global Muslim community, dramatized so vividly in the Arab Spring.
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An interesting problem. These achievements-- which are real and substantial-- are for the most part downpayments on a better future, on a set of global institutions and relationships which work better and function smoothly in a different, more prosperous time. It is hard, from either a security or an economic perspective, to stack that long-range view up against the real or perceived challenges we face, or that we hear shouted about on cable.
http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2011/12/what-was-done-right-this-year.html
Posted by Heather Hurlburt
<...>
2. Finding its feet on human rights. Few will have noticed even among the wonk-erati, but from institutionalizing government procedures for catching potential genocides in advance, focusing on women's role in international peace and security and improving Pentagon training on human rights, the Administration put several long-fought initiatives into place this year. Secretary Clinton's LGBT initiatives only got noticed at home when conservatives tried to make political hay out of the radical idea that sexual orientation should not be a death sentence; her speech that accompanied the women's initiative in December didn't even get that much attention. but in the rest of the world, where sexual and gender violence are all-too prevalent, and three women were among the Nobel Prize winners, this kind of US leadership will matter. The relevance of the US intervention in Libya for human rights will be debated for decades; what should be remem bered is how it also allowed a UN Security council-backed mission to remove a sore election loser in Cote d'Ivoire and end developing carnage.
3. South Sudan. That the new nation was able to come into existence successfully, and relatively quietly, this year is due in no small part to the Administration's interventions at the UN and on the ground.
4. Iraq troop withdrawal. Not so long ago, this didn't seem a foregone conclusion at all.
<...>
6. Decline of Al Qaeda. US military actions, including but not limited to the killing of Bin Laden, have hastened the organization's decline and its loss of support among the global Muslim community, dramatized so vividly in the Arab Spring.
<...>
An interesting problem. These achievements-- which are real and substantial-- are for the most part downpayments on a better future, on a set of global institutions and relationships which work better and function smoothly in a different, more prosperous time. It is hard, from either a security or an economic perspective, to stack that long-range view up against the real or perceived challenges we face, or that we hear shouted about on cable.
http://www.democracyarsenal.org/2011/12/what-was-done-right-this-year.html
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"Osama bin Laden will never walk on this earth again" is the rhetoric we want to represent us? [View all]
Bonobo
Jan 2012
OP
The 2 principal war criminals won't have to come to trial and I'm very happy they are out of the way
phleshdef
Jan 2012
#10
I said Truman's statement was an example of a Democrat using the same kind of rhetoric.
phleshdef
Jan 2012
#35
The circuit board is impeached by one person. Other evidence shows that Libya had possession
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#60
Edwin Bollier? The guy who also claimed Gaddafi offered him $200M to get Megrahi free?
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#72
Really? I've been proven wrong? I'm not noticing a lot of responses to my #94.
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#107
JackRiddler I used to think Megrahi did bomb the plane, but your logic and facts are solid.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#64
" Libya was framed for the Lockerbie bombing is MSM sourced" Gross overstatement
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#61
Who in the world releases someone who kills 300 people for "Compassion" reasons? Really?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#68
And despite all this overwhelming evidence, a re-trial was planned for him. How do you explain that?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#82
Because the defense wasn't told about the CIA offer to Gauci. A technicality.
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#84
Apples & Oranges. Ted Stevens was accused of political corruption, not terrorism/mass murder.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#90
Don't you know? He had OVERWHELMING evidence against him. Yet a re-trial was approved.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#83
You know, when you put it in ALLCAPS like that, it feels more overwhelming!
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#88
Here's another good point - the actual summary of referral from the Scottish review board
Bolo Boffin
Jan 2012
#94
US or international politics of it all aside, bin Laden's demise was bluntly necessary, imo.
pinto
Jan 2012
#12
Bluntly necessary? To shoot rather than capture the best source of intelligence?
JackRiddler
Jan 2012
#55
If osama truly was the criminal mastermind behind deaths of thousands and thousands of innocents
Muskypundit
Jan 2012
#14
Personally, I'm glad that particular shithead is dead. If that makes me a bad man, I'm a bad man.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#21
This is the first I've heard of this particular statement by the President
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2012
#25
I considered the capture or killing of Bin Laden as a worthy goal of our government.
MilesColtrane
Jan 2012
#27
Right up there with Americans screaming, USA! USA!, teeth clenched and veins
truth2power
Jan 2012
#41
Don't like that phrase, but winning the war against terrorism sounds pretty good...
JCMach1
Jan 2012
#46
Just run Gingrich as a (D)--if we are EXACTLY like them, they won't be able to criticize us!
Romulox
Jan 2012
#57
Not if Gingrich (D) is the nominee, as I suggested earlier. How could they criticize ANYTHING,
Romulox
Jan 2012
#104
Yep! He was directly responsible for ordering the deaths of thousands of people
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jan 2012
#58
First off, their is no such thing as a soul, but to go ahead and continue your thought process...
snooper2
Jan 2012
#66