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Celerity

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24. I have heard over 20 constitutional lawyers and experts say for ages that none
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 09:50 AM
Aug 2021

of the voters rights bills can passed through reconciliation.

What I found to be pure bullshit was the Parliamentarian saying that a 15 USD minimum wage would not have a significant impact on government balance sheets to qualify. Ludicrous, as the increased tax revenues from higher salaries would be massive. Also bullshit is the non inclusion of student debt relief, which would have qualified. A lot of people in my age cohort ( I was born in 1996, so let's call it 18 to 40) were very driven to the polls by student debt relief (like the 10k USD at least that Biden campaigned on the entire time) and also the free first 2 years of public college tuition (Biden for years said 4 year at a public school, but lowered it when he declared for POTUS) .

I see many on this board (draw-bridgers I call them) say that even the 10K USD in relief should not be given, nor the free first 2 years of uni. Big mistake, especially as we have control (albeit barely) of Congress and the POTUS. I have been waiting for 7, 8 months for Biden's lawyers to say if he can do it via executive order (most all, bar a few, constitutional lawyers have said yes, as there is a clause in the statutes that is easily seen as granting him the power). If those 2 things are just blown off, that is hardly a way to energise Gen Z and the Millennial (and even older) voters in 2022. Not after they were inundated with those promises over and over (especially when the GA seats held the Senate control in their hands. The Millennial gen is just fucked financially overall, save for a group of high income earners who artificially jack up the average earnings. As a last year (1996) Millennial (I prefer Zennial, ie. a micro bridge Gen born from 1992 to 1998) I can attest to many of my peers struggling like hell, even before the pandemic.

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Unlikely. Nancy knows what she's doing. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #1
link? I have seen this for days, but figure you saw something new. Kurt Schrader (OR) said he is Celerity Aug 2021 #2
From CNN FBaggins Aug 2021 #4
I have no idea why they cannot just wait and pass them together. Seems Celerity Aug 2021 #6
I think that is indeed what they plan FBaggins Aug 2021 #8
Yes, as the fiscal year ends on September 30th, and then a new reconciliation bill Celerity Aug 2021 #13
Important to remember that reconciliation is not just a Senate thing FBaggins Aug 2021 #15
So there is a vote in the House, then it goes to the Senate, they Celerity Aug 2021 #18
They get 2 reconciliation bills per cycle (or per year--i dont remember which), right? Volaris Aug 2021 #21
I have heard over 20 constitutional lawyers and experts say for ages that none Celerity Aug 2021 #24
Shouldn't that be "revolting"? nt FBaggins Aug 2021 #3
Just an observation that I posted this as an issue earlier this week and people complained... brooklynite Aug 2021 #5
Same here. The answer is always "Nancy has got this" FBaggins Aug 2021 #9
You had a completely legitimate right to post it then. The Problem Solvers Celerity Aug 2021 #11
As I said on the other thread, Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #7
Masters have to have material to work with FBaggins Aug 2021 #10
I would bet money Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #12
Oh... I would bet money too FBaggins Aug 2021 #14
I don't think they'll have to spin anything. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #16
I think you just did FBaggins Aug 2021 #17
Then they are not being realistic, we don't have large majorities in either branch of Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #23
At this point anything is better than nothing...might help us at the midterms. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #25
The MSM has to create some kind of drama to sell their doc03 Aug 2021 #19
It isn't the MSM creating drama FBaggins Aug 2021 #20
Letter from 9 Democrats to Pelosi at link below. MFGsunny Aug 2021 #22
Pass the bipartisan bill now LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #26
And, I was just lectured yesterday that progressives are the problem. Politicub Aug 2021 #27
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