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JohnSJ

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46. you are right, and it destabilized the entire middle east

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #44)

Fri Aug 13, 2021, 12:29 PM

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Just saw a report on CNN, (not verified), where Senior Afghan officials are joining the Taliban [View all] JohnSJ Aug 2021 OP

The US and its allies should never have been there in the first place malaise Aug 2021 #1

+1,000 zuul Aug 2021 #6

I'm going to keep asking this question of posts that say maxsolomon Aug 2021 #7

If foreign policy wasn't directed by big oil, MIC and the other vested interests malaise Aug 2021 #10

Yes! And did the MIC and the US military protect us on 9-11? No! zuul Aug 2021 #16

So, yes? maxsolomon Aug 2021 #32

Absolutely true re the Mujahadeen malaise Aug 2021 #36

we also abandoned the Mujahideen after we gave them arms to fight the russians Javaman Aug 2021 #37

Correct as maxsolomon pointed out malaise Aug 2021 #38

I am of firm belief that destruction of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan was attainable Devil Child Aug 2021 #13

We killed bin Laden without a full-fledged invasion of Pakistan JohnSJ Aug 2021 #19

Exactly n/t Devil Child Aug 2021 #20

Yes! So it does seem possible to target one man, or even several men, zuul Aug 2021 #29

"We" chose to invade Iraq as well. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #34

Yes n/t Devil Child Aug 2021 #35

Iraq was based on a lie, and was one of the worst foreign policy adventures we engaged in since JohnSJ Aug 2021 #42

Worse in some ways. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #44

you are right, and it destabilized the entire middle east JohnSJ Aug 2021 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Aug 2021 #2

Let's not forget that TFG started this withdrawal. The onus isn't entirely President Biden's. eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #3

Biden obviously got bad intel BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #4

Oh, I think they knew. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #9

They always know at some level BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #12

Who would "the heat" be from? David__77 Aug 2021 #14

There's a 9/11 20th anniversary media shitstorm on the way, don't kid yourself BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #15

I think "we were there too long" would be effective. David__77 Aug 2021 #17

Paid for my MIC, Big oi and who else? malaise Aug 2021 #39

MIC and pundit class wanted us there forever. Devil Child Aug 2021 #24

I think so JohnSJ Aug 2021 #43

Agree Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #5

If senior Afghan officials are joining the Taliban zuul Aug 2021 #8

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Aug 2021 #11

It is clear we want democracy and liberation for them more than they do. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #18

We who? malaise Aug 2021 #23

We the American army. It was a mistake to go and a mistake to stay for 20 years SoonerPride Aug 2021 #26

I agree with Biden 100% malaise Aug 2021 #28

This is, and always was, snowybirdie Aug 2021 #21

Yeah. Screw it. alphafemale Aug 2021 #22

Wow... just wow Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #30

Exactly how many pounds of other people's flesh to you suggest be thrown away on this lost cause? alphafemale Aug 2021 #41

Those examples are not comparable to the situation in Afghanistan. We have an JohnSJ Aug 2021 #31

Taliban captures Afghan commander Ismail Khan after fall of Herat Klaralven Aug 2021 #25

Thanks for the link to this, Klaralven. nt crickets Aug 2021 #47

"But we must stay and help them! 20 years isn't enough!" BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #27

It was inevitable. Afghanistan has always been an ungovernable country, with a JohnSJ Aug 2021 #33

Probably trying to keep their heads. GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #40

Of course they are. kacekwl Aug 2021 #45