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BarbD

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32. There is never a "good" way to end a big 20 year mistake.

Fri Aug 13, 2021, 02:14 PM

Aug 2021

Biden has great courage to take all the flack and the determination to end this folly.

Did we learn nothing from the stupidity of Vietnam? Who can forget the horrifying scene in April, 1975 when Army helicopters scrambled to evacuate civilian and military personnel from the rooftop of the American embassy in Saigon? Who can forget the tragedy of ordinary South Vietnamese refugees who sought to escape by boat -- many not surviving?

War is not a game. There is always collateral damage. When will we ever learn?

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Only one president has had the courage to do the right thing in Afghanistan. [View all] kpete Aug 2021 OP

I remember Bill Clinton saying he could send ground troops to Kosovo but he didn't know how to get g Walleye Aug 2021 #1

Very true PatSeg Aug 2021 #4

Exactly, This current mess is on W Walleye Aug 2021 #5

Yes and all the neocons PatSeg Aug 2021 #14

W has not been president since 2009. former9thward Aug 2021 #18

Clausewitz Said It Over 200 Years Ago COL Mustard Aug 2021 #26

Yes and in this day and age, PatSeg Aug 2021 #43

Sadly there are no really good solutions PatSeg Aug 2021 #2

It's one thing I like about Joe. He will make hard decisions, and take the flak Walleye Aug 2021 #7

Yes, he has a lot of character PatSeg Aug 2021 #17

Well the asshole did make the deal to pull out last year Polybius Aug 2021 #3

Yeah, he SAID a lot of crap PatSeg Aug 2021 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Aug 2021 #8

100% correct malaise Aug 2021 #9

Yes kpete Aug 2021 #11

And we'd have fewer foreign enemies to worry about IronLionZion Aug 2021 #20

And many of the disgruntled at home are simply fed up of their situation malaise Aug 2021 #21

This will be Biden's Benghazi, but I don't know what else he could do. Vinca Aug 2021 #10

If the GOP ever gets back in the majority it will be endless, vicious hearings Walleye Aug 2021 #16

Then they'll be the Taliban ... Xoan Aug 2021 #25

DAYUM! That nails it! calimary Aug 2021 #36

+1 zuul Aug 2021 #12

The rethugs have almost bankrupted us with their stupid wars. captain queeg Aug 2021 #13

Ghengis Khan was the last to conquer Afghanistan UpInArms Aug 2021 #15

Yup, it was unwinnable and the women will suffer. Jon King Aug 2021 #19

They're executing prisoners who surrender too ansible Aug 2021 #23

Yes, but in the longer run most males will be fine. Jon King Aug 2021 #29

There's no definition of winning IronLionZion Aug 2021 #22

The Romans had anti-insurgency figured out. Mustellus Aug 2021 #24

Big Dog stayed out, too. He got the lesson of Somalia very quickly and got a quick refresher ... marble falls Aug 2021 #27

I completely agree with Joe & back him 100% . V.N.-67 - 70 . time to leave ! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #28

And if we'd followed his advice in 2009, we'd be in the same position as now... thesquanderer Aug 2021 #30

Quibbling, but Iraq ranks higher than Afghanistan. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #31

Yep Cosmocat Aug 2021 #33

There is never a "good" way to end a big 20 year mistake. BarbD Aug 2021 #32

+1 chowder66 Aug 2021 #40

Because Bush Let the Taliboneheads & Al Qaida Slip Away GB_RN Aug 2021 #34

We could have stayed another 100 years and it would not... 3catwoman3 Aug 2021 #35

Exactly, Russia tried before the US did. Jon King Aug 2021 #39

The Collapse of an Empire Loge23 Aug 2021 #37

"...restricting deployments abroad only to fights directly related to U.S. national security.." SpankMe Aug 2021 #38

Define stability lonely bird Aug 2021 #42

When you lie wounded on Afghanistan's plains lonely bird Aug 2021 #41