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andym

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37. Past history does not predict future results

Fri Aug 13, 2021, 03:58 PM

Aug 2021

which is an important disclaimer for investments and should be for history as well-- though it can help with identifying some of the problems to be overcome.

That said there have been periods of stability in Afghanistan, the last was between 1933 and 1973. https://www.usip.org/sites/default/files/SR314.pdf

Btw, to personalize the argument is a weak argument, by saying I could go and fight them. It is of course absurd since only a nation such as the US could help--no individual could make a difference by himself/herself. There should be a debate about how to proceed. In fact there should have been one in Afghanistan itself wherein the United States negotiated/planned with all the tribal heads as well as the government during a Loya Jirga.

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100 Views in ! minute and 52 seconds Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #1

You should know by now that sort of thing happens all the time. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #41

Oh FFS. cilla4progress Aug 2021 #2

Ok..what do YOU want to happen? Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #3

Really, like cilla4progress Aug 2021 #4

I think we agree. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #5

Why can't we do bombing runs cilla4progress Aug 2021 #6

I dont know Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #16

OK... what solution YOU propose? LanternWaste Aug 2021 #21

See post#18 in this thread. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #22

Post 18 is irrelevant to the question I asked. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #23

Well, in this situation , there are no guarantees. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #26

+1 CrispyQ Aug 2021 #7

Agree...abandoning them isn't right Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #14

Why did she self deport to Canada? left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #10

We were at the airport, sending her back home to cilla4progress Aug 2021 #12

My god they must have planned for this cilla4progress Aug 2021 #8

Suffering from this withdrawal is and will be immense andym Aug 2021 #9

Agreed. cilla4progress Aug 2021 #11

Agreed... we really should change direction. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #15

What do you want to do? Re-invade Afghanistan? Twenty more years? panader0 Aug 2021 #17

You're mistaken. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #18

OMT Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #19

If we haven't been able to "save" Afghanistan in 20 years then when will we? totodeinhere Aug 2021 #27

How much do you want a foreign army occupying the US? panader0 Aug 2021 #31

I guess I'm a bleeding heart. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #32

Hey man, I'm a bleeding heart too. panader0 Aug 2021 #33

Peace to you. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #34

Your strategy will only work if we decide to stay in Afghanistan forever and if we decide totodeinhere Aug 2021 #24

The alternative isn't only staying in Afghanistan forever andym Aug 2021 #35

The British failed in Afghanistan. The Russians failed on Afghanistan. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #36

Past history does not predict future results andym Aug 2021 #37

It's not such a weak argument. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #38

Cmon ...that's not necessary. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #40

A full committee hearing in the coming weeks sounds like it's too late, to me. secondwind Aug 2021 #13

Menendez was right Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #20

It is not within our ability to "save" that country unless we decide to stay there forever. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #25

I respectfully disagree. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #28

Well then maybe you should volunteer to go over there. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #29

Let them defend their own country Thrill Aug 2021 #30

It's over. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #39