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Ms. Toad

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37. Acknowledging facts does not mean stay home.

Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:24 PM

Aug 2021

It means recognizing the risk, taking the precautions necessary to stay safe (including universal masking), and encouraging others to do so as well.

I have been teaching in person for more than a year, and taught 93 students for 4 of the last 5 days (with 30 more tomorrow).

I'm not staying home - BUT - I recognize how easily transmitted (and how dangerous) delta is, and take steps to stay safe - unlike way too many fools who merely want to go out and pretend COVID no longer exists.

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385,000 went to Lollapalooza, but it wasn't a COVID superspreader event [View all] Pluvious Aug 2021 OP

200+ cases already linked to Lollapalooza- how many equals a superspreader event? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #1

We also don't know all the cases, considering we aren't testing that much. LisaL Aug 2021 #2

Article says 88% attending were vaccinated. secondwind Aug 2021 #3

Australia would have locked up the whole city over 200 cases. LisaL Aug 2021 #5

My guess would be over 100 thousand .. FarPoint Aug 2021 #4

Wonder how many others the 203 infected before they were diagnosed? MichMan Aug 2021 #7

Each person with delta infects 5-8 people on average. LisaL Aug 2021 #8

88% of festival's attendees were vaccinated. That's good. Hoyt Aug 2021 #6

Wouldn't 88% immunization in a closed population set amount to herd immunity? Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #9

There is no herd immunity with delta. LisaL Aug 2021 #10

So anything less than 100% immunization means the cycle will never end? Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #11

Even a 100% immunization won't stop delta, since it can infect vaccinated people. LisaL Aug 2021 #12

It's a success if very few vaxxed people get hospitalized mucifer Aug 2021 #13

Of the vaccinated attendees at Lollapalooza, only 0.0004% have tested positive for the virus SoonerPride Aug 2021 #14

How many did they test? LisaL Aug 2021 #15

Only those who needed a test. Thats how many. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #16

Yes but we have no way of knowing that fescuerescue Aug 2021 #18

So you just assume that really 300,000 people got covid and no one needed a test? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #22

Asymptomatic cases can spread the virus, even in those vaccinated NickB79 Aug 2021 #25

Full stop only if you ignore medical facts and time. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #32

Then stay home. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #33

Acknowledging facts does not mean stay home. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #37

Moving the goalposts doesn't make your premise any more valid. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #40

They tested every one of them who wasn't vaccinated. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #39

I'm really surprised that a Blue state would allow that. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #17

They had enough room in the hospital. LisaL Aug 2021 #19

Sturgis 2020 "only" had 463 primary cases reported out of a similar crowd size NickB79 Aug 2021 #20

Exactly. LisaL Aug 2021 #21

So never leave your house. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #24

You be you. LisaL Aug 2021 #27

Bye SoonerPride Aug 2021 #34

The feeling is mutual. LisaL Aug 2021 #36

Watching the people who insisted this would be a catastrophe refuse to admit that it wasn't greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #23

Yea, we enjoy drama. LisaL Aug 2021 #26

Not in Chicago greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #28

Cases in Chicago are increasing. LisaL Aug 2021 #30

Delta surge in Chicago started in early July, about 4 weeks before Lollapalooza greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #31

You do recognize that there actually isn't any flattening at the link you provided, right? n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #35

Nothing short of Australia-tier lockdowns and enforcement will make some happy here ansible Aug 2021 #41

Way too soon to tell that. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #29

I would like to draw everyone's attention to some things in the article. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #38