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ShazzieB

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38. I would like to draw everyone's attention to some things in the article.
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:40 PM
Aug 2021

"Around 88% of the festival’s attendees were vaccinated..."

"The Chicago festival had stringent protocols, as it required attendees to show proof of vaccination or of a negative COVID-19 test."

Quote from Chicago Department of Public Health Commissioner Dr. Allison Arwady: “We would have seen a surge if we were going to see a surge at this point.”

I get the feeling that a lot of posters are overlooking and/or discounting these points. Chicago is a very blue city that has been very conscientious about covid protocols from the start, located in a blue state that has been very conscientious about covid protocols from the start. It is not some Trump worshipping, maskhole infested, antivaxx hellhole. (There are some pockets of that in the state, but Chicago is not one of them.) We had a statewide mask mandate for about 15 months. (Some might argue that it should never have been lifted, but that's a whole separate conversation.) We have a high vaccinaction rate. Chicago (like Illinois as a whole) is a place that has taken covid seriously from the getgo.

Would calling off Lollapalooza this year have been the most prudent thing to do? Sure. Holding it was a calculated risk. But the decision to do so was not made in a cavalier manner. It was done with full recognition of the risks and an eye to keeping those risks as low as possible. And it has proved NOT to be a superspreader event, showing what a difference it can make when sensible rules are put in place and carefully followed.

Personally, I'd call it a win.

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200+ cases already linked to Lollapalooza- how many equals a superspreader event? Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #1
We also don't know all the cases, considering we aren't testing that much. LisaL Aug 2021 #2
Article says 88% attending were vaccinated. secondwind Aug 2021 #3
Australia would have locked up the whole city over 200 cases. LisaL Aug 2021 #5
My guess would be over 100 thousand .. FarPoint Aug 2021 #4
Wonder how many others the 203 infected before they were diagnosed? MichMan Aug 2021 #7
Each person with delta infects 5-8 people on average. LisaL Aug 2021 #8
88% of festival's attendees were vaccinated. That's good. Hoyt Aug 2021 #6
Wouldn't 88% immunization in a closed population set amount to herd immunity? Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #9
There is no herd immunity with delta. LisaL Aug 2021 #10
So anything less than 100% immunization means the cycle will never end? Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #11
Even a 100% immunization won't stop delta, since it can infect vaccinated people. LisaL Aug 2021 #12
It's a success if very few vaxxed people get hospitalized mucifer Aug 2021 #13
Of the vaccinated attendees at Lollapalooza, only 0.0004% have tested positive for the virus SoonerPride Aug 2021 #14
How many did they test? LisaL Aug 2021 #15
Only those who needed a test. Thats how many. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #16
Yes but we have no way of knowing that fescuerescue Aug 2021 #18
So you just assume that really 300,000 people got covid and no one needed a test? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #22
Asymptomatic cases can spread the virus, even in those vaccinated NickB79 Aug 2021 #25
Full stop only if you ignore medical facts and time. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #32
Then stay home. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #33
Acknowledging facts does not mean stay home. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #37
Moving the goalposts doesn't make your premise any more valid. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #40
They tested every one of them who wasn't vaccinated. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #39
I'm really surprised that a Blue state would allow that. fescuerescue Aug 2021 #17
They had enough room in the hospital. LisaL Aug 2021 #19
Sturgis 2020 "only" had 463 primary cases reported out of a similar crowd size NickB79 Aug 2021 #20
Exactly. LisaL Aug 2021 #21
So never leave your house. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #24
You be you. LisaL Aug 2021 #27
Bye SoonerPride Aug 2021 #34
The feeling is mutual. LisaL Aug 2021 #36
Watching the people who insisted this would be a catastrophe refuse to admit that it wasn't greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #23
Yea, we enjoy drama. LisaL Aug 2021 #26
Not in Chicago greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #28
Cases in Chicago are increasing. LisaL Aug 2021 #30
Delta surge in Chicago started in early July, about 4 weeks before Lollapalooza greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #31
You do recognize that there actually isn't any flattening at the link you provided, right? n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #35
Nothing short of Australia-tier lockdowns and enforcement will make some happy here ansible Aug 2021 #41
Way too soon to tell that. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #29
I would like to draw everyone's attention to some things in the article. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #38
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