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Lionel Mandrake

(4,212 posts)
Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:05 AM Jan 2012

Apple Inc. pays its CEO more, and those at the bottom less, than any other US company. [View all]

On the one hand, according to an AP story dated January 10, 2012,

Tim Cook could well end up being the highest-paid chief executive in the U.S. in 2011 after Apple Inc. granted him 1 million restricted stock units in August for taking the reins shortly before co-founder Steve Jobs died.

An Associated Press review of a securities filing shows that Cook's pay package was valued at $378 million.

Read more:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cook-pay-20120110,0,5116180.story

On the other hand, according to Sue Halpern's review of Walter Isaacson's book Steve Jobs (in The New York Review of Books), Apple's products

come from places that do not make us better people for owning them, the factories in China where more than a dozen young workers have committed suicide, some by jumping; where workers must now sign a pledge stating that they will not try to kill themselves but if they do, their families will not seek damages; where three people died and fifteen were injured when dust exploded; where 137 people exposed to a toxic chemical suffered nerve damage; where Apple offers injured workers no recompense; where workers, some as young as thirteen, according to an article in The New York Times, typically put in seventy-two-hour weeks, sometimes more, with minimal compensation, few breaks, and little food, to satisfy the overwhelming demand generated by the theatrics, the marketing, the packaging, the consummate engineering, and the herd instinct; and where, it goes without saying, the people who make all this cannot afford to buy it?

While it may be convenient to suppose that Apple is no different than any other company doing business in China—which is as fine a textbook example of a logical fallacy as there is—in reality, it is worse. According to a study reported by Bloomberg News last January, Apple ranked at the very bottom of twenty-nine global tech firms “in terms of responsiveness and transparency to health and environmental concerns in China.”

Read more:
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2012/jan/12/who-was-steve-jobs/?pagination=false
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Oh? Does apple own Foxconn? cstanleytech Jan 2012 #1
No, but Foxconn workers are still at the bottom. tinrobot Jan 2012 #5
Hmmm. I was sort of making this point elsewhere on the board earlier this evening. MADem Jan 2012 #2
Actually, Apple is worse than most. Lionel Mandrake Jan 2012 #6
Those workers in China don't work for Apple (or Microsoft) REP Jan 2012 #3
Foxconn makes a lot of the cheap shit you buy. Atman Jan 2012 #4
I agree with you - maybe you meant to respond to OP? REP Jan 2012 #7
Yes...wasn't directed at you. Atman Jan 2012 #10
It IS Apple's fault... they have quite a lot of control over who they do business with... JCMach1 Jan 2012 #11
And Apple's contract with Foxconn requires better conditions than the rest of the plant jeff47 Jan 2012 #23
So that makes it right? JCMach1 Jan 2012 #25
The complaint is poor working conditions. Apple requires better working conditions jeff47 Jan 2012 #29
Why doesn't Apple just move production to someplace that meets their requirements? nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #32
Because Foxconn runs the Apple part of the factory such that it meets their requirements jeff47 Jan 2012 #33
We can't hate on all of them? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #34
The working conditions are better. More breaks, shorter hours, etc. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2012 #37
Can you link to that? Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #38
Maybe this is why.. girl gone mad Jan 2012 #35
So you can abuse the hell out of workers if you're not making a large enough profit? (nt) jeff47 Jan 2012 #36
Apple has the power to change that the same way Walmart has incredible power over its suppliers JCMach1 Jan 2012 #39
"Better" and "less atrocious" aren't necessarily synonymous. (nt) Posteritatis Jan 2012 #41
Yes they do MattBaggins Jan 2012 #14
Biggest LOL of the thread! nt Romulox Jan 2012 #27
(Cr)apple slay Jan 2012 #8
I guess that is the one freedom I have left hang a left Jan 2012 #9
Jailbreaking also causes a host of problems jeff47 Jan 2012 #19
I never understand people who have a favorite mega-corporation be it Apple or another. nt. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #12
I disliked Apple most of my adult life after I could not get support for an Apple 2C LiberalArkie Jan 2012 #13
So does my refrigerator. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #17
That's cause all the other fridge manufacturers make fridges that "just work" jeff47 Jan 2012 #21
I have an HP laptop that has been phenomenal. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #24
It's only recently that Microsoft and the hardware people have been able to be so stable jeff47 Jan 2012 #30
Perhaps. Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #31
Apple is another corporate psychopath, just like the rest of them..... marmar Jan 2012 #15
Why should Apple consumers waste their beautiful minds on irrelevant details like that? eShirl Jan 2012 #16
All aboard the Apple hate-train! negativenihil Jan 2012 #18
My hate train doesn't have brakes, and it doesn't stop at Apple. Zalatix Jan 2012 #20
"Hey, everyone's doing it!" n/t eShirl Jan 2012 #22
Apple should do better than this AZ Progressive Jan 2012 #28
I find people's ability to rationalize whatever anti-social behavior they wish to engage in Romulox Jan 2012 #26
For some perspective, the manufacturing cost comes in around $8. joshcryer Jan 2012 #40
Here is a link to the Bloomberg News article Lionel Mandrake Jan 2012 #42
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