Well, my brother just intubated a 35 year old who is most likely going to die.

[Ms. Toad]

64. You've got your facts wrong.

The flu vaccine has not been more than 50% effective since 2013-14. It has not, in the history of the CDC publicly available information been higher than 60%. So your assertion that it has "rarely . . . more than 75%" is a vast exaggeration of reality.

The effectiveness the past few seasons has been 19%, 48%, 40%, 38%, 29%, and 39%. In other words piss poor. As for being the difference between life and death - the flu is not COVID. While it can be deadly, it is not ordinarily deadly - and when it is deadly it hits relatively predictable categories - unlike COVID which is much more random both as to death and serious consequences. No influenza since 1918 has killed even 10% as many people as COVID has, let alone come anywhere close to the long term non-fatal consequences.

My point is that the decision about whether to be vaccinated against the flu is objectively different from the decision to be vaccinated agaist COVID, both because of the relative effectiveness of the vaccines, and the potential consequences to both the vaccinated individual and the population at large of the disease itself.