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Ford_Prefect

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24. The Neo-Cons surrounding Cheney/Bush engineered the invasion and the mission
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 09:06 AM
Aug 2021

to suit their fantasies of neo-Christian "liberation". They did the same for Iraq as for Afghanistan assuming their model of democracy was universally applicable. Neo-Cons live in a Disney-like version of cold-war America in which the divisions and solutions are very black and white. They quite badly misunderstood the ethos and subtleties of the Muslim world, and broadly discounted the degree of corruption in the governments of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. They also went in hungry to exploit regional resources much as a colonial power.

When things went badly post-invasion they made many of the same assumptions as a previous Pentagon & State Department during Vietnam. They also could not accept or deal with the idea that they might have been wrong in their planning assumptions. Instead of reacting to the realities of the situation they covered up their failures, which is what the US has been doing for the last 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq...

...And now in Yemen along with much of Africa.

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... Klaralven Aug 2021 #1
Your excerpt seems as if it could apply to the US as well. panader0 Aug 2021 #3
They were only in it for the paycheck. panader0 Aug 2021 #2
Nation building only works when people feel they have a stake in the nation. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #7
They have a stake in their nation krispos42 Aug 2021 #25
Yep. $70+ Billion. babylonsister Aug 2021 #8
$70+ billion also seems like a very, very low estimate. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #23
it is NJCher Aug 2021 #30
Here's what I don't get malaise Aug 2021 #10
Your last sentence echo my sentiments exactly. panader0 Aug 2021 #12
SO many great responses in this thread...... MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #14
What democracy? malaise Aug 2021 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Aug 2021 #16
It's not about siding with Americans. But about siding with Afghan women and girls JI7 Aug 2021 #18
So then set a global example by locking up the Slobfather and Gaetz malaise Aug 2021 #20
Here's what I don't get malaise Aug 2021 #11
So the U.S. backed a nearly non-existent government PJMcK Aug 2021 #4
Ah, but plenty of rich corporations and rich individuals really made bank. Nay Aug 2021 #22
Much the same reasons why the armies of Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt perform so poorly. Kaleva Aug 2021 #5
This would have happened if we remained there 50 True Blue American Aug 2021 #6
I think there may be more basic reasons. NCjack Aug 2021 #9
We don't learn from history doc03 Aug 2021 #13
Another good analysis is at Common Dreams: TheRickles Aug 2021 #17
The Neo-Cons surrounding Cheney/Bush engineered the invasion and the mission Ford_Prefect Aug 2021 #24
Corruption and graft on the part of both the US and Afghans. Pure and simple. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #19
Corruptions seep everywhere empedocles Aug 2021 #27
Unfortunately, humans have this trait in abundance. :( Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #28
Place has alway been corrupt more so after they depose the King in 1969 Historic NY Aug 2021 #21
we didnt so much fight a war as bribe our way to control. mopinko Aug 2021 #26
The answer is: they have not been PAID. harumph Aug 2021 #29
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