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Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Our mission in Afghanistan is successful, says U.S. Secretary of State Blinken [View all] Klaralven Aug 2021 OP

If that was the mission then we should have left 19 years ago. former9thward Aug 2021 #1

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #2

! KG Aug 2021 #3

the killing of bin Laden treestar Aug 2021 #4

He's right, this isn't Saigon. It's worse than Saigon. Devil Child Aug 2021 #5

Ummm....no. paleotn Aug 2021 #9

Did the Fall of Saigon leave billions of dollars of military equipment to the enemy? ansible Aug 2021 #13

+1 ansible Devil Child Aug 2021 #14

No. paleotn Aug 2021 #17

Yes. paleotn Aug 2021 #16

Yeah, but at least ARVN used it for years before surrender Devil Child Aug 2021 #19

We were equipping the ARVN DURING the '75 spring offensive.... paleotn Aug 2021 #20

You do realize helos are on the roof of the US embassy as we speak? Devil Child Aug 2021 #22

And how exactly is this WORSE than Saigon in '75? paleotn Aug 2021 #24

Because it was "a little accelerated" Devil Child Aug 2021 #26

Not really. The NVA hadn't planned for a full on invasion of the south until '76 paleotn Aug 2021 #29

"The more things change, the more they stay the same." Devil Child Aug 2021 #30

And to you. paleotn Aug 2021 #31

lol what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #6

I think Blinken is conflating issues. Raven123 Aug 2021 #7

Trump and Pompeo released 5000 Taliban prisoners Bev54 Aug 2021 #10

Are you suggesting Biden/Blinken didn't know that and couldn't plan for the impact? Raven123 Aug 2021 #27

Anyone's plans can fail, and they clearly did here. Devil Child Aug 2021 #28

Exactly! The administration should just say it loud and clear: Raven123 Aug 2021 #32

I think they made a big mistake by trusting anything the Taliban said Bev54 Aug 2021 #33

I agree. Own the mistake, clearly and publicly. It's a festering now Raven123 Aug 2021 #35

Successful? Chainfire Aug 2021 #8

What he is saying is basically true but that was accomplished early on. honest.abe Aug 2021 #11

Okay we needed to leave but a victory lap is not appropriate. This was not a win. yellowcanine Aug 2021 #12

Well defined end game and end state. This operation had neither. paleotn Aug 2021 #15

"a little accelerated" Devil Child Aug 2021 #23

Wynken, Blynken, and Nod Solly Mack Aug 2021 #18

Crap, we are back to Disaffected Aug 2021 #21

If US personnel get out safely, that's success. David__77 Aug 2021 #25

If that is a success, what does failure look like? iemanja Aug 2021 #34