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treestar

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4. the killing of bin Laden

Reply to Klaralven (Original post)

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 10:49 AM

Aug 2021

was in 2011 though so what were the last 10 years about?

If keeping it stable, then we would have to stay forever, it appears.

But that was the only reason; if Al Qaeda isn't in existence there any more.

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Our mission in Afghanistan is successful, says U.S. Secretary of State Blinken [View all] Klaralven Aug 2021 OP

If that was the mission then we should have left 19 years ago. former9thward Aug 2021 #1

+1 leftstreet Aug 2021 #2

! KG Aug 2021 #3

the killing of bin Laden treestar Aug 2021 #4

He's right, this isn't Saigon. It's worse than Saigon. Devil Child Aug 2021 #5

Ummm....no. paleotn Aug 2021 #9

Did the Fall of Saigon leave billions of dollars of military equipment to the enemy? ansible Aug 2021 #13

+1 ansible Devil Child Aug 2021 #14

No. paleotn Aug 2021 #17

Yes. paleotn Aug 2021 #16

Yeah, but at least ARVN used it for years before surrender Devil Child Aug 2021 #19

We were equipping the ARVN DURING the '75 spring offensive.... paleotn Aug 2021 #20

You do realize helos are on the roof of the US embassy as we speak? Devil Child Aug 2021 #22

And how exactly is this WORSE than Saigon in '75? paleotn Aug 2021 #24

Because it was "a little accelerated" Devil Child Aug 2021 #26

Not really. The NVA hadn't planned for a full on invasion of the south until '76 paleotn Aug 2021 #29

"The more things change, the more they stay the same." Devil Child Aug 2021 #30

And to you. paleotn Aug 2021 #31

lol what on earth WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #6

I think Blinken is conflating issues. Raven123 Aug 2021 #7

Trump and Pompeo released 5000 Taliban prisoners Bev54 Aug 2021 #10

Are you suggesting Biden/Blinken didn't know that and couldn't plan for the impact? Raven123 Aug 2021 #27

Anyone's plans can fail, and they clearly did here. Devil Child Aug 2021 #28

Exactly! The administration should just say it loud and clear: Raven123 Aug 2021 #32

I think they made a big mistake by trusting anything the Taliban said Bev54 Aug 2021 #33

I agree. Own the mistake, clearly and publicly. It's a festering now Raven123 Aug 2021 #35

Successful? Chainfire Aug 2021 #8

What he is saying is basically true but that was accomplished early on. honest.abe Aug 2021 #11

Okay we needed to leave but a victory lap is not appropriate. This was not a win. yellowcanine Aug 2021 #12

Well defined end game and end state. This operation had neither. paleotn Aug 2021 #15

"a little accelerated" Devil Child Aug 2021 #23

Wynken, Blynken, and Nod Solly Mack Aug 2021 #18

Crap, we are back to Disaffected Aug 2021 #21

If US personnel get out safely, that's success. David__77 Aug 2021 #25

If that is a success, what does failure look like? iemanja Aug 2021 #34