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wnylib

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50. Genetic, not environmental.

Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:55 PM

Aug 2021

Some environmental things can aggravate the inherited trait of varicose veins. If your regimen works for you, that's fine, but it is not a panacea for all people with varicose veins and I'm inclined to believe that your success is due as much to belief as to actual physical results.

I have 50 years of experience with a very prominent varicose vein in one leg and minor ones in the other. I have held jobs that required standing for hours with no adverse effects. I have also had jobs that required sitting most of the day. The sitting jobs aggravated the veins far worse than the ones where I stood and moved about for long periods.

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People use all kinds of supplements that are not FDA approved [View all] milestogo Aug 2021 OP

I take at least 15 different supplements a day. no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #1

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I already have. My primary is a doctor of osteopathy and approves of supplements. no_hypocrisy Aug 2021 #21

Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #23

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I don't think you're lying I think you really believe it works. Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #61

Because placebos? Yes? Earth-shine Aug 2021 #63

Supplements are ok IF you know wnylib Aug 2021 #29

I don't think supplements are *bad* per se Mad_Machine76 Aug 2021 #45

Yes, I understand the point of the OP. wnylib Aug 2021 #49

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+1 dalton99a Aug 2021 #17

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This message was self-deleted by its author USALiberal Aug 2021 #55

Hmm, Disaffected Aug 2021 #56

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Hmm, Disaffected Aug 2021 #59

I completely disagree. I have nothing to prove to you. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #62

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Pine Bark is indeed a good oligoproanthocyanidin (OPC) antioxidant. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #47

No, I said CBD oil was an excellent AI (anti-inflammatory), with the caveat added that it must in2herbs Aug 2021 #67

Free radicals do NOT cause varicose veins. wnylib Aug 2021 #32

I'm so sorry to tell you ... Earth-shine Aug 2021 #40

Genetic, not environmental. wnylib Aug 2021 #50

You have varicose veins, you have never tried what works for me, so therefore, ... Earth-shine Aug 2021 #51

I will grant that some aggravating wnylib Aug 2021 #52

If one's veins or valves are damaged from being malformed, nutritional supps cannot help. Earth-shine Aug 2021 #60

Didn't you say in previous post that this wnylib Aug 2021 #65

Sorry multiple conversations going on. I have a solution! Earth-shine Aug 2021 #66

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There is a good case gab13by13 Aug 2021 #22

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Those work for me, too. quaint Aug 2021 #10

You are most welcome! Siwsan Aug 2021 #12

I did it a simpler way, shingles vaccine! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #26

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I was raised on meals that were homemade from scratch. Very little boxed stuff Siwsan Aug 2021 #38

Re: B12 supplement wnylib Aug 2021 #44

She actually has me on D, too Siwsan Aug 2021 #46

My mother told me that my sister bought some memory pills.. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #13

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I Know, Right? RobinA Aug 2021 #68

Well, the thought came to me after the same person who posted an anti-vax meme milestogo Aug 2021 #25

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since when do they value regulation? TalenaGor Aug 2021 #20

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