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greenjar_01

(6,477 posts) Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:31 PM Aug 2021

Sorry, but somebody has to lose their job for Afghanistan collapse, probably Cabinet-level [View all]

If the shoe was on the other foot, everybody here would be baying for heads to roll, and that's not "both-siderism."

State, DoD, somebody.

This has been completely bungled and mis-managed, and it's not OK.

And I agree with full withdrawal, but it needed to be managed properly, and it wasn't. At some point, the honorable thing to do is admit a colossal fuck up and turn in your keys.

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Sorry, but somebody has to lose their job for Afghanistan collapse, probably Cabinet-level [View all] greenjar_01 Aug 2021 OP

The Agreement was made under the Trump Administration - this mess was a done deal. Dan Aug 2021 #1

Weak sauce greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #7

Maybe, what would you have us do? Dan Aug 2021 #9

What I would have had us do Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #33

Sad to say, but I think Dan Aug 2021 #45

Whatever plan we were seeking to execute for the last five months was awful greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #40

Your conflating "the deal" with "the execution" AkFemDem Aug 2021 #8

I agree, maybe the Execution of the withdrawal could have been handled better, But Dan Aug 2021 #13

The Soviet puppet government lasted two and one half years after they left. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #28

Does not negate the validity of what I said. Dan Aug 2021 #31

I was amplifying on what you said. It was a much nicer "withdrawal". DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #32

Succinct and accurate. cilla4progress Aug 2021 #19

I keep hearing the christofascist talking about some plan Pompeo and the Pig had... Thomas Hurt Aug 2021 #2

afghan prez flees country - wonder how much $$$ he stashed away first nt msongs Aug 2021 #3

It's been mismanaged for 15 years. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #4

It sure has greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #6

People in charge of intelligence who failed to realize that the Afghani forces would run like scared Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #5

They Knew Deep State Witch Aug 2021 #16

Yeah, I don't think so Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #18

Why? SoonerPride Aug 2021 #10

The purpose of the war in Afghanistan, like the war in Iraq, was to militarize US foreign policy Gaugamela Aug 2021 #11

It wasn't going to end any other way. 2000 election is where we could JI7 Aug 2021 #12

Gotta agree. Someone(s) will pay for this. Sure, past time to get out. But optics of people crowding Hoyt Aug 2021 #14

Agreed - Mike Pompeo has to go! FakeNoose Aug 2021 #15

And someone has, President Ghani bottomofthehill Aug 2021 #17

I think we should wait for more information and not jump the gun Eko Aug 2021 #20

apparently the tv makes people experts stillcool Aug 2021 #29

+1 n/t Lulu KC Aug 2021 #41

This would be the wise thing to do MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #21

Biden abided by Trump's deal. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #22

Who was responsible moondust Aug 2021 #23

I think UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #24

Every year it was postponed made it worse. Baked Potato Aug 2021 #25

There was no chance that this.. JackSabbath Aug 2021 #26

Do you actually know what happened? stillcool Aug 2021 #27

The toppling of Saddam's statue was staged by US military PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #34

that is what I was referring to stillcool Aug 2021 #36

Excuse me Stillc. I interpreted the post wrong. nt PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #37

No problem puf... stillcool Aug 2021 #50

On the contrary ymetca Aug 2021 #30

Really?? No! Nt USALiberal Aug 2021 #35

Can't imagine the media hyping this, or making it look really bad for ratings..can you? PortTack Aug 2021 #38

There is no "management". Someone had to have the balls to cut our losses on that Tarc Aug 2021 #39

The Soviets couldn't do it, and the US couldn't do it. You can't control that region. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #48

What is hard about this: even if you're pulling out, you have to do it in an orderly manner greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #52

There is no "orderly withdrawal" from a warzone. Either we fuck around forever, or Tarc Aug 2021 #55

I'd suggest Mike Pompeo . . . . hatrack Aug 2021 #42

That was my first thought MiniMe Aug 2021 #46

I don't blame Biden admin for Afghan collapse, was expected. I do however hold the admin responsible Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #43

We're running for the airports greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #53

Nobody's job is on the line. This is what everybody knew would happen. No surprises heare past ... marble falls Aug 2021 #44

Mike Pompeo Must Go Hekate Aug 2021 #49

No it has not, it all reflects on the reluctance to fight by Afghan army Pompoy Aug 2021 #51

What was the plan for the withdrawal and why didn't it contemplate Afghan army collapse? greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #54

I nominate George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. meadowlander Aug 2021 #56