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In reply to the discussion: If only the mom had been armed to protect herself. [View all]Straw Man
(6,936 posts)183. Criminalized?
Last edited Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:10 AM - Edit history (1)
They see a tragedy like this, like tragedies we have seen thousands of times before, and they do everything they can to move the subject away from the obvious: gun incidents like this need to be criminalized.
They already are: criminal negligence. But what do you do in cases where the the criminal is already dead, which is quite possibly the situation here? Look for somebody else to blame? That doesn't sound like justice to me. Maybe you have a different standard.
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The owner of the gun (the father) should be arrested for a felony murder/manslaughter offense.
aeromanKC
Aug 2021
#2
I'm not overly familiar with the laws in question, but wouldn't criminal negligence be the most
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#6
If it is the most likely charge, that is a problem. That man murdered his wife and
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#27
It should be that, if your gun is used to kill someone, no matter who took it out or
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#70
Gosh. You brought that to thhe moronic "gun equals car" argument much faster than usual.
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#78
If they were able to take your gun, as opposed to any other kind of property, without
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#134
Sure. Go with that. The gun was totally secure but the toddler was a criminal mastermind.
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#37
Read again, slowly. There are gun freaks who jump into every one of these threads to tell everyone
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#42
My wish for those people, though I know that it will never come true, is that they
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#47
Again, how do they become people who respond this way? What warped them like that?
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#55
I'd enjoy quizzing your locals regarding the point of simply leaving loaded guns strewn about.
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#9
In fairness, weapon lights are a standard accessory for handguns and most feature a strobe function.
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#17
Realistically what can be done about anything once opponents block anything substantive?
elias7
Aug 2021
#10
The time to act to change this country's attitude towards guns was the late 18th Century.
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#33
Like the father in this OP there are just too many stupid people in America that own guns.
Tom Yossarian Joad
Aug 2021
#11
I presume by "simple" you don't mean "feasible". Your repair plan hasn't the slightest chance of
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#18
Honestly, it's monstrous. How do they live with themselves? How does a person become that?
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#35
"Heller...is one of the two worst decisions of the past half century, at least."
Jedi Guy
Aug 2021
#152
I bet the writers of the Constitution knew what they meant when they wrote it
EX500rider
Aug 2021
#119
What is your estimate of the likelihood of this goal actually coming to pass?
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#43
You choose to own a gun, you choose to lose some civil rights. The choice is yours.
jaxexpat
Aug 2021
#82
I don't see where any of your examples are Constitutionally protected rights. nt
EX500rider
Aug 2021
#156
lol, lets just throw the Bill of Rights in the trash for your crusade? No thanks.
EX500rider
Aug 2021
#86
The constitution does NOT provide citizens with the right to flaunt firearm carelessness.
jaxexpat
Aug 2021
#90
My suggestion is that in order to own a gun one would knowingly waive some 4th amendment rights.
jaxexpat
Aug 2021
#158
"So tell us just how the fuck are we to interpret that?" Well, since you asked nicely.
jaxexpat
Aug 2021
#164
And none of those existing parallels are protected Constitutional rights are they?
MarineCombatEngineer
Aug 2021
#165
Oh, Jesus. What a crock of shit. The thing that should be done is that the person
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#28
What you are proposing wouldn't work, for reasons that have already been pointed out.
ShazzieB
Aug 2021
#129
I like sporting guns, started trap & skeet shooting as a kid. I use the biometric safe
Ziggysmom
Aug 2021
#59
You could never enforce such a thing without an intolerable infringement of freedumb.
Crunchy Frog
Aug 2021
#145
Not saying this is one, but how many "unintentional" shootings by children really not unintentional?
marie999
Aug 2021
#19
I don't know the stats but I would guess that there are far more cases of matricide and patricide by
Tom Yossarian Joad
Aug 2021
#22
To some of the commenters above; this has nothing to do with right-wingers and militias
Tarc
Aug 2021
#31
So progressives should just shrug our shoulders and pretend that this is not a problem that should
Tom Yossarian Joad
Aug 2021
#38
Please link to the post that said this had anything to do with right wingers or militias.
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#45
None of those in any way says this has anything to do with right wingers or militias.
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#56
I find it interesting that the choice of names is associated with a pro 2A stance
Tom Yossarian Joad
Aug 2021
#53
I will now point out (yet) again that my username is asked on a silly 1960's comic book.
Dial H For Hero
Aug 2021
#61
What you think and what is reality are two far different things. nt
MarineCombatEngineer
Aug 2021
#162
There is a psychology that is crystal clear to the rest of us but that the gun freaks themselves
Scrivener7
Aug 2021
#62
Certainly wouldn't have the strength to work the slide so the idiot also left a round in the chamber
EX500rider
Aug 2021
#108
Sorry, I missed your post and if I had seen it I would have posted in it and rec'd it.
Tom Yossarian Joad
Aug 2021
#102
It's not that as much as you wonder sometimes why something gets ignored and
Liberal In Texas
Aug 2021
#106
Probably because no one suggested ripping up the Bill of Rights in that thread..
EX500rider
Aug 2021
#175