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Bucky

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63. Right. I'm probably more of Dutch stock than English, but my last name is English-origin

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:07 PM

Oct 2012

And yet I'm more comfortable saying "American". On the other hand, distant cousins who retained the Dutch last name by patrilineage might be calling themselves "Dutch American" despite having less Hollandaise in their bloodstream. People will (though it's random) self identify to their patrilinear roots--either claiming Italian ancestry, though they are only 25% Italian, or dismiss these roots for a lack of an Italian surname, though they might be 37% Genoan in origin and more Italian than any other nation-stock.

This is one reason why I dodge the whole trolley car and just say...

I'm an American,
as mutt as can be,
I know no Europeans
related to me

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Famous White Americans [View all] Bucky Oct 2012 OP

Not to be obtuse, but what is the purpose of this thread? dballance Oct 2012 #1

I had the exact same thought. Jamastiene Oct 2012 #2

I can see where you'd get that from, sadly enough. Bucky Oct 2012 #14

It seems pretty humorous to me maxsolomon Oct 2012 #39

One thing about white people.... Bucky Oct 2012 #67

President O should be on this list & the African American list & skeewee08 Oct 2012 #3

You are actually right for another reason - at least in the South dballance Oct 2012 #5

Actually they went (informally but consistently) by the "one drop" rule. Bucky Oct 2012 #15

I think your thread is pointless and racist. n/t darkangel218 Oct 2012 #4

I think your response is spigotty at best slackmaster Oct 2012 #6

whats a spigot? n/t darkangel218 Oct 2012 #8

It's a faucet, tap, valve, stopcock, or bung slackmaster Oct 2012 #9

ok thanx :/ nt darkangel218 Oct 2012 #11

Tsk, tsk. I'll sure the word police don't like "bung." FSogol Oct 2012 #13

TP FOR MY Bunghole! Aerows Oct 2012 #19

Hehe...huhu..hehe PD Turk Oct 2012 #18

Glad to see Aerows Oct 2012 #20

:) PD Turk Oct 2012 #30

Alfredo, marinara, or pesto? Bucky Oct 2012 #16

Pesto is an abomination. Alfredo is OK only if it isn't made with cream. slackmaster Oct 2012 #49

LOL, I have helped introduce new words into the DU lexicon snooper2 Oct 2012 #22

So it was your word. Hutzpa Oct 2012 #29

snooper2 is an unrepentant pedagogue slackmaster Oct 2012 #48

How is it racist? Bucky Oct 2012 #17

It's like a big gubba thread snooper2 Oct 2012 #35

Gubba? What's a gubba? Bucky Oct 2012 #55

It is true that unless you were from English descent you were not considered white in early America former-republican Oct 2012 #7

That was even true in the 1870s when my paternal ancestors immigrated from Germany slackmaster Oct 2012 #10

and true when my grandparents immigrated from Ireland in the 1890s. n/t FSogol Oct 2012 #24

that would probably be more of a language thing hfojvt Oct 2012 #31

My grandfather was born in 1895. Only German was spoken in the house when he was a child. slackmaster Oct 2012 #51

I have German and Irish in my ancesrty PD Turk Oct 2012 #32

Famous verbal exchange from The Godfather. Jack Woltz and Tom Hagen... slackmaster Oct 2012 #50

Yes, but then again, the Irish invented "passing as white" Bucky Oct 2012 #66

I thought this was interesting in the article former-republican Oct 2012 #12

Ed Gein! porphyrian Oct 2012 #21

I LOL'd. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #23

David Duke! porphyrian Oct 2012 #25

Al Capone! porphyrian Oct 2012 #26

Al Capone is an Italian American. nt Hutzpa Oct 2012 #33

...so...? n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #34

Did you read the article Hutzpa Oct 2012 #46

Are you attacking me now? porphyrian Oct 2012 #47

Of course not, did I come across as that? nt Hutzpa Oct 2012 #53

it was probably the burst of Tommy Gun from the Bently's running boards Bucky Oct 2012 #56

Chalkies!! Erose999 Oct 2012 #27

Jim Bakker! porphyrian Oct 2012 #28

Ronald Reagan! hfojvt Oct 2012 #36

...damn...! porphyrian Oct 2012 #38

I want to say something about Vermont's white population cali Oct 2012 #37

John Wayne Gacy! porphyrian Oct 2012 #40

David Berkowitz! porphyrian Oct 2012 #41

General Custer! porphyrian Oct 2012 #42

Is that wig dude Cotton Mather or J.S. Bach? geardaddy Oct 2012 #43

gotta be Cotton. Bach was European. Bucky Oct 2012 #61

I know. geardaddy Oct 2012 #62

I don't care for this thread. Whovian Oct 2012 #44

Frank discussions of race can be painful. I think it's worth it, the discipline of objectivity Bucky Oct 2012 #58

My own opinion is there is only one race in regards to humans. Whovian Oct 2012 #65

In the abstract I agree. It's why I self identify as ethnically American. Bucky Oct 2012 #68

You do realise there is no such thing as "ethnically American?" Whovian Oct 2012 #70

No, actually ethnicity is a fact. It's a social construct, but it's sociologically real. Bucky Oct 2012 #71

Jimmy Swaggart! porphyrian Oct 2012 #45

. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #52

Incorrect and/or misleading information there Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #54

True. As noted in the OP, this is self-reporting information. Bucky Oct 2012 #57

I think there are a few factors at work there Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #59

Right. I'm probably more of Dutch stock than English, but my last name is English-origin Bucky Oct 2012 #63

Whites are considered a minority in Hawaii? How ironic. CheapShotArtist Oct 2012 #60

Nah, it's only math. Bucky Oct 2012 #64

The Irish were once considered "non-white"? Canuckistanian Oct 2012 #69