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In reply to the discussion: "We are in a planetary emergency." [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)153. I didn't say what you thought I said re: Venus.
Mercury is closer to the Sun than Venus.
Very true, but Mercury has virtually no volcanism or any atmosphere to speak of; that's a large part of the reason that it also gets extremely cold in areas not facing the sun's rays.
The fact that you think proximity to the Sun dictates heat absorbtion really kind of disqualifies your opinion on this matter. What dictates absorption is atmospheric composition. Just because we don't have the same composition as Venus doesn't mean we can't wind up with a runaway warming scenario.
Way to take me out of context, Doc. I never said the Sun had ALL to do with heat absorbtion, and in fact, I actually did mention that the atmosphere's composition was a major part of why Venus is so hot. So, I don't know where you got the idea that I insinuated that the Sun had everything to do with it.
So, over what period of time was that 2.5°C change?
Here you go:

the figure I quoted is in the green. As far as I know, the Cariaco Basin in Venezuela has been a decent marker for observing climate change over time.
However, though, it appears that it could have been even higher than that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas#End_of_the_climate_period
edit-Here's a few more graphs:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLXw0W0qaNuUVBaUtPNEben_ODyzNy1o2mCP5c3-hhPJZO4e8G7eNHgg
So, it does look like I may need to reconsider a few things regarding the YD period.
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The problem is Dems aren't really doing one god damned thing about it, either.
villager
Oct 2012
#52
It's not bad, but we know that a many-years-off investment in some green technologies...
villager
Oct 2012
#87
Let's set the record straight. The large part of the money went for energy efficiency
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#96
We will downsize and rely on green energy for what we can get. I understand that.
JDPriestly
Oct 2012
#143
Most of those people don't have deep pockets and an army of lobbyists working for them.
Selatius
Oct 2012
#68
Yes, their data keepers as well as the DOD know the dangers and have prepared for them.
freshwest
Oct 2012
#89
Corporations killed us all, in the end. We, the people were not strong enough, nor smart enough. N/T
AAO
Oct 2012
#34
I imagine that when it comes to religion, we hear what better validates our biases.
LanternWaste
Oct 2012
#93
I don't see it as an emergency because there is no urgent intervention that could stop it
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#5
As is Fukishima, "because there is no urgent intervention that could stop it"
dixiegrrrrl
Oct 2012
#25
I fully understand that it is TECHNICALLY possible, and even believe the USA could do its share
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#141
There is no current scientific theory of life that fits the planet itself as living.
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2012
#128
Adaptation and evolution are a species wide biological action. A single member of the species...
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2012
#133
I doubt that Al Gore could have had any real influence on the bigger fossil fuel picture
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#15
It is the very probably true. And Jesus said to GOD,"Forgive them they know not what they do."
The Wielding Truth
Oct 2012
#32
No one wants to be the one to tell Americans they have to cut back their lifestyles.
CrispyQ
Oct 2012
#84