"Osama bin Laden will never walk on this earth again" is the rhetoric we want to represent us?

[JackRiddler]

48. The case against Libya for the Lockerbie bombing is dubious.

Mr. Boffin, obviously your intervention here is not an answer to what I wrote.

Nevertheless, to reply:

The Scotsman

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-east-fife/police_chief_lockerbie_evidence_was_faked_1_1403341

Police chief- Lockerbie evidence was faked

Published on Sunday 28 August 2005 00:14

A FORMER Scottish police chief has given lawyers a signed statement claiming that key evidence in the Lockerbie bombing trial was fabricated.

The retired officer - of assistant chief constable rank or higher - has testified that the CIA planted the tiny fragment of circuit board crucial in convicting a Libyan for the 1989 mass murder of 270 people.

The police chief, whose identity has not yet been revealed, gave the statement to lawyers representing Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, currently serving a life sentence in Greenock Prison.

The evidence will form a crucial part of Megrahi's attempt to have a retrial ordered by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (SCCRC). The claims pose a potentially devastating threat to the reputation of the entire Scottish legal system.

SNIP

By 2009, the one man convicted for the Lockerbie bombing, Megrahi, was released by the UK on humanitarian grounds while his appeal, which looked set to overturn his conviction, was still in process.

You're not unfamiliar with the fact that even in the unlikely case that Megrahi had anything to do with the 1989 bombing of the Pan Am flight, the CIA still apparently saw a need to frame him by manufacturing the key evidence. In denial perhaps, but not unfamiliar:

So, how have they managed to cover up the Lockerbie frame-up for 17 years?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x177149

As emerged in 2007, CIA offered millions to the key witnesses in the case against Megrahi - a piece of information the prosecution forgot to tell the defense, as would have been required.

The Herald, Scotland

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/news/display.var.1730667.0.0.php

SNIP

The Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission found document during its three-year investigation, which concluded earlier this year that Megrahi should have a fresh appeal.

The document, thought to be from the CIA, contains highly classified information about the MST13 timer which allegedly detonated the bomb. The Crown, for national security reasons, is still refusing to hand the material over to the defence.

SNIP

The Crown ultimately released Megrahi, avoiding the chance that his conviction would be reversed.

Again, your reply does not speak to my own post, or the subthread.

Nevertheless, there is a more clear-cut case:

Locater map depicting Iran Air 655's origination point, destination and approximate location of the shootdown. (The air corridor is not necessarily a direct path)


A missile departs the forward launcher of Vincennes during a 1987 exercise. The forward launcher was also used in the downing of Iran Air 655.

From Wikipedia: Iran Air Flight 655

What happened in that case is not in dispute.

Just more collateral murder.

Updating one of my posts from that Lockerbie thread:

Recalling the context

1) 1988: Vincennes downs Iranian airbus.

2) 1989: Lockerbie.

3) Circuit board found.

4) U.S. officials insinuate Syria as terror-sponsor state blew up Pan Am as contractor for Iran.

5) 1990: Iraq invades Kuwait.

6) U.S. switches to openly accusing Libya of Lockerbie bombing.

7) Bush Sr. visits Assad Sr. to recruit him for upcoming Gulf War. They appear together in Damascus.

8) Sanctions on Libya for more than decade.

9) Libya caves in, produces 2 suspects for Scottish trial (held in Netherlands).

10) One conviction. Libya pays ransom to lift sanctions, even as Gaddafi continues to deny the verdict.

11) After 9/11, Libya and U.S. reconcile, Gaddafi takes a moral membership in the GWoT, practically makes love with Bush Jr. (and Blair. Many arms deals with West, joint friendly summits with Western leaders follow.)

12) 15 years after Lockerbie, Scottish police chief says CIA planted circuit board.

13) Scottish review board orders retrial of convict.

14) 2009: Convict is released prior to completion of retrial.

15) 2011: Arab Spring, uprising in Libya. Overnight, Gaddafi is enemy again, US-UK propaganda rediscovers Lockerbie as an unpunished atrocity.

I think any U.S. credibility in making a case against Libya vanished somewhere between 6 and 7.